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Windows Forum / Windows XP / Games / October 2006Call Of Duty MP
I would like to be able to start a Call Of Duty server that's visible on the internet. My PC has two IP addresses, a local one for an internal network and the one from my ISP, I'm not sure if this is the problem or not. Even if I force the IP address from the config file the server and the players on it aren't visible from the internet server / player search. Also, if I connect to my server from another local PC using "CoDMP.exe +connect <internet IP>:<port>" the connection is still made via the local IP address. Any thoughts, comments or help would be appreciated. Thanks.  SignatureFenster Hi Fenster, To determine if the issue is caused by your Internal IP address, you will simply need to connect directly to your internet source bypassing your router in the process to confirm that you can connect to your game server. If you're successfull, you may be able to setup your game server from behind your router by using a Windows Broadband connection or a PPPoE connection to your ISP over the existing connection of the router. This will ensure that Windows is handling your DNS and IP management instead of your Router, providing more speed and stability. SignatureCheers, *Windows_XP_MVP_Shell/User* Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Visit my MSN Games and Windows Gaming Help Site: www.msce.mvps.org MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights. _________________________________________________________ Fenster Wrote: ================= | I would like to be able to start a Call Of Duty server that's visible on | the internet. My PC has two IP addresses, a local one for an internal [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] | | Thanks. >Hi Fenster, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >router. This will ensure that Windows is handling your DNS and IP >management instead of your Router, providing more speed and stability. I'm not sure that I can do this (to be honest, I don't understand what you're telling me or asking me to try in the second paragraph). The configuration I have at present is three PCs connected to an ethernet switch, one of them has an ADSL modem for connecting to the internet. The 'internet' PC runs as the game server and ICS is used to provide an internet connection for other two PCs. I would assume, because of this, that Windows is providing DNS and IP management (but I don't really know, ethernet and IP, etc. has always been a bit of a mystery to me). Maybe ICS is clever enough to route the two PCs via the local IP address rather than via the internet so the local PCs not connecting to the internet IP address may be a red herring but the server still isn't visible from the internet (for other, external PCs). This is the major problem. SignatureFenster Hi Fenster, Is the PC directly connected to the ADSL the game server? SignatureCheers, *Windows_XP_MVP_Shell/User* Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Visit my MSN Games and Windows Gaming Help Site: www.msce.mvps.org MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights. _________________________________________________________ Fenster Wrote: ================= || Hi Fenster, || [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] | visible from the internet (for other, external PCs). This is the major | problem. >Hi Fenster, > >Is the PC directly connected to the ADSL the game server? PC1 is connected to the ADSL modem (and hence to the internet), it's the game server. All three PCs are connected to a NetGear switch. PC2 and PC3 get their internet access via ICS from PC1. SignatureFenster Hi Fenster, Are outside players able to join your server over the Internet? Is this issue affecting your LAN players or your Internet players? SignatureCheers, *Windows_XP_MVP_Shell/User* Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Visit my MSN Games and Windows Gaming Help Site: www.msce.mvps.org MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights. _________________________________________________________ Fenster Wrote: ================= || Hi Fenster, || [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] | game server. All three PCs are connected to a NetGear switch. PC2 and | PC3 get their internet access via ICS from PC1. >Hi Fenster, > >Are outside players able to join your server over the Internet? >Is this issue affecting your LAN players or your Internet players? The problem is that the server isn't usually visible (to local players) in any of the "Join Game" lists (local, internet, favourites). I assume, therefore, that it's not visible to internet players either. Also, the server (and the players on it) are not visible from http://stats.callofduty.com/index.php What local players do to join a game is CoDMP.exe +connect <server IP>:<port> (or something similar, I'm in the wrong place to check this right now). I'm not sure if this would work from the internet but I don't see why not, as long as the IP wasn't "internal" (10.x.x.x, 192.168.x.x, etc.). By the way, all three PCs can join internet games (although they never see anything like the same number of servers but that's another question for another day perhaps). Thanks, F. SignatureFenster Hi Fenster, When LAN games don't connect, there are a few variables to consider, for example check for a patch at: www.avault.com/pcrl/patches_list.asp?letter=a 1. Disconnect from the Internet by physically unplugging the cable or DSL line, and then since there's no longer danger of outside attacks, turn off your software firewall (Norton's, McAfee, Zone Alarm, Outpost, ICF, etc.) as these firewalls could be blocking data to and from your system. 2. If you use a router, it could be blocking you as well: Routers have built-in port blocking firewalls based on NAT technology. DirectX games require that ports be open in order for the data packets to be able to travel from one system to another. Here's How to Configure a router for Multiplayer: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits/PortRoute.html#howto 3. If Step 1 applies to you, but you want an alternative solution, pick up a cross- over cable from your local supply shop to directly connect one computer to the other on a 2 player LAN, especially if both computers are close together. 4. If you have multiple network adapters, the game might be using the wrong one To verify this behaviour, click Start / Control Panel / System / Hardware Tab / Device Manager, click the + next to Network Adapters, right click the adapter which accesses the Internet, and "Disable" it from the right-click menu. If that works, open Control Panel / Network Connections, click Advanced / Advance Settings / click the LAN Connection and then the UP arrow to change it's priority so it's at the top of the list. Test your Internet games to see if they work this way. 5. DirectX may need to be upgraded on both systems: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/default.aspx 6. Universal PnP might need to be disabled in your router, or in Windows XP: a) To enable or disable UPnP in XP, click Start / Run / type: services.msc and you can then right-click Universal Plug and Play on the list to Start it. b) Consult your router manual for the UPnP instructions for your model. 7. Network Adapter drivers may need to be updated on one or all machines. 8. You may need to specify the target IP using a game specific method. Consult your game manual or readme file in the game directory. For MS games: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;EN-US;gmsnetw 9. You might be specifying the Public IP instead of the Private (LAN) IP. To easily find the Public and Private IP numbers of the computer you are using, visit: http://www.u.arizona.edu/~trw/games/nat_or_not.php For more in depth troubleshooting, try this MS Network Troubleshooting article: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/columns/russel/02april08.asp ... and this exceptional Windows XP MVP Network Troubleshooter: http://www.michna.com/kb/wxnet.htm -- Cheers, Windows_XP_MVP_Shell/User Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights. _________________________________________________________ Fenster Wrote: ================= || Hi Fenster, || [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] | Thanks, | F. >Hi Fenster, > >When LAN games don't connect, there are a few variables to consider, for >example check for a patch at: www.avault.com/pcrl/patches_list.asp?letter=a I checked this out and I'm patched beyond the patch available on this site. There was an ATI patch but I assume I don't need this as I'm not having problems with the graphics side of things. Also, I'm a bit concerned about the "independence" of the patches. What I mean by that is that the site has a patch to V1.4 and an ATI patch and I'm already patched to V1.5, does this mean the ATI patch is already incorporated? Would it matter if it was (if I applied it 'again')? Or is it no longer necessary? Or might it cause a problem for later/other versions of CoD? >1. Disconnect from the Internet by physically unplugging the cable or DSL > line, and then since there's no longer danger of outside attacks, turn off [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > so it's at the top of the list. Test your Internet games to see >if they work this way. I have multiple IP addresses, one for the NIC attached to the switch/LAN and one for my ISP (via USB ADSL modem). I'll try the order/priority but my concern is that because the ISP connection isn't there all the time, specifically at power-up, the order may be changed by the system and the local IP placed at the top of the list. >5. DirectX may need to be upgraded on both systems: > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/default.aspx I'll check this but I think that all machines are the same version of DirectX. I think it's quite recent too but I'll check that as well. >6. Universal PnP might need to be disabled in your router, or in Windows XP: > a) To enable or disable UPnP in XP, click Start / Run / type: services.msc [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Consult your game manual or readme file in the game directory. For MS > games: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;EN-US;gmsnetw Using this method I can connect any machine to any other for multiplayer games. The puzzle, as previously mentioned, is that even if I force a connection to the game server via the internet I still end up connected via the LAN. This may be down to ICS being "clever" and saving me the time and effort to out into the wide world and back but it makes me doubt everything. If I specify a server by name and it finds a "shortcut" I would consider it's doing its job well, if I specify an address I would consider it broken that it's not using the address requested. >9. You might be specifying the Public IP instead of the Private (LAN) IP. > To easily find the Public and Private IP numbers of the computer you > are using, visit: http://www.u.arizona.edu/~trw/games/nat_or_not.php Not sure what you mean here. Whichever IP I specify from a local PC it always connects using the local IP (as per previous comment). I checked out NAT or not, it's very clever and more than a little worrying how much information can be pulled off your PC without your knowledge. >For more in depth troubleshooting, try this MS Network Troubleshooting article: >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/columns/russel/02april08.asp [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Cheers, Windows_XP_MVP_Shell/User >Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Thanks Jimmy, this is all very useful, helpful stuff. F. SignatureFenster Hi Fenster, You might consider doing a clean install of the game and updating it with the most recent patch. That will clean out any conflicting updates. SignatureCheers, *Windows_XP_MVP_Shell/User* Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Visit my MSN Games and Windows Gaming Help Site: www.msce.mvps.org MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights. _________________________________________________________ Fenster Wrote: ================= || Hi Fenster, || [quoted text clipped - 96 lines] | Thanks Jimmy, this is all very useful, helpful stuff. | F. >Hi Fenster, > >You might consider doing a clean install of the game and updating it with >the most recent patch. That will clean out any conflicting updates. Thanks Jimmy, I'll give that a try. F. SignatureFenster |
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