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Windows Forum / Windows XP / Hardware / January 2007Installing new hard drives
I am wanting to install two new 250gb ata133 hard drives in my computer. They will be (eventually) replacing the currently installed 40 gb hd that operates as the master drive in my system. I have a msi socket A mb that does not support raid. Can some one please recomend a stream lined method of bringing my two new hard drives into the system to replace the older smaller one? Since I cannot do a raid setup wtihout a raid controler (that I do not have ) I will be using one of the new hds as the master and the second as a slave of course. I was thinking about installing one as a slave, formatting, and loading xp and then transfering files. then removing the old small hd , switching the newly formatted drive to master and then installing the second new hd as the slave and going from there. But I am not sure that would work. ANy thoughts? Actually with IDE hds its a snap to install.Simply put one new hd as slave on the same IDE cable as current C: (40 GB),in xp format the hd.Once thru, go to run,type:XCOPY C:\*.* D: /c/h/e/k/r In the DOS window,agree to all, once its thru,C: OS is now on the new hd.Also,D: being the new hd but if asigned diffrent letter then use that letter instead.Also,XCOPY only works with IDE hds,not SATA.Also,you should format the 40 GB & the other 250GB & set both as a page file in system properties.Also,youre controller regulates the hd speed,some/most only run at 100mb/s,they do make PCI IDE RAID controllers,but the MB/s is only a little more than regular IDE controller speed. > I am wanting to install two new 250gb ata133 hard drives in my computer. They > will be (eventually) replacing the currently installed 40 gb hd that operates [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > newly formatted drive to master and then installing the second new hd as the > slave and going from there. But I am not sure that would work. ANy thoughts? I have done as you suggested, worked out fine, just fine and didn't take very long at all. As I wrote in my reply to Andy , it appears that everything on my old HD (Cdrive) is now on Edrive (minus a few settings and what not). Is it now possible to simply hook up E as C and boot from my new drive? > Actually with IDE hds its a snap to install.Simply put one new hd as slave > on the same IDE cable as current C: (40 GB),in xp format the hd.Once thru, [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > newly formatted drive to master and then installing the second new hd as the > > slave and going from there. But I am not sure that would work. ANy thoughts? >I am wanting to install two new 250gb ata133 hard drives in my computer. >They [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > slave and going from there. But I am not sure that would work. ANy > thoughts? scktA: Your intended approach is a sensible one, i.e., fresh installing XP on one of the new 250 GB HDDs and moving/copying your user-created data from your old 40 GB HDD to the new one. But you do understand that you will have to fresh install all your programs onto the new drive, right? You cannot (in most cases) simply copy the programs/applications from your old HDD to the new one. On the other hand - you can "clone" the contents of your 40 GB HDD to one of the 250 GB HDDs through the use of the disk copying program that will be included with a retail boxed version of the new HDD - this program is also available in most cases from the manufacturer's website. In this regard you might also want to consider purchasing a disk imaging program such as Acronis True Image that you could use to clone the contents of your 40 GB HDD to the 250 GB HDD. The advantage here is that most users find the Acronis program easier to use than the manufacturer's disk copying program and the program also can be routinely used for backup purposes. (I assume you're planning to use your second 250 GB HDD for backup/storage purposes. And, of course, you can use your old 40 GB HDD for that purpose as well). BTW, Acronis (http://www.acronis.com) has a 15-day trial version of their program available for download. Give it a try. If you're interested I can provide you with step-by-step instructions for using that program. I don't recommend using the DOS xcopy command as recommended by a respondent to your query. Nor is there any need for "page file" manipulation. Anna Well , Ive tried all that I could think of that won't cost me money.... I wonder how much time I have invested in trying to get this little computer project done. Anyways, If hitachi does not have anything usefull to tell me tomorrow I'm going to purchse the acronis software you suggested. If your offer to assist me install the new drives still stands I might be taking you up on it, depending on what hitachi has to say about their oem drives. > >I am wanting to install two new 250gb ata133 hard drives in my computer. > >They [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > to your query. Nor is there any need for "page file" manipulation. > Anna >> >I am wanting to install two new 250gb ata133 hard drives in my computer. >> >They [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> > slave and going from there. But I am not sure that would work. ANy >> > thoughts? >> scktA: >> Your intended approach is a sensible one, i.e., fresh installing XP on [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >> to your query. Nor is there any need for "page file" manipulation. >> Anna > Well , Ive tried all that I could think of that won't cost me money.... I > wonder how much time I have invested in trying to get this little computer [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > you > up on it, depending on what hitachi has to say about their oem drives. scktA: From what I've seen of your postings re this issue over the past few days - both with this thread and an apparently more-or-less identical thread you've started - you've been going 'round & 'round on this relatively simple issue for days. Is there any reason why you couldn't do what you originally contemplated, i.e., simply install XP on one of your new large-capacity HDDs and transfer whatever user-created data from your old 40 GB HDD to the new one? Yes, you would need to fresh install whatever programs/applications you wanted from the old to the new HDD, but is that a problem? If it is, then using a disk imaging program such as the Acronis one mentioned (note the free demo) would be in order. Anna Just to add, if you clone the current to the new drive, once completed shutdown. Connect new as master, disconnect old.Reboot. Assuming all ok shutdown connect old as slave, reboot then copy data > I am wanting to install two new 250gb ata133 hard drives in my computer. They > will be (eventually) replacing the currently installed 40 gb hd that operates [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > newly formatted drive to master and then installing the second new hd as the > slave and going from there. But I am not sure that would work. ANy thoughts? >I am wanting to install two new 250gb ata133 hard drives in my computer. They >will be (eventually) replacing the currently installed 40 gb hd that operates [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >newly formatted drive to master and then installing the second new hd as the >slave and going from there. But I am not sure that would work. ANy thoughts? If you're doing a clean install from the Windows XP CD, then you want to set the new drive as the first drive, i.e., as master on the primary IDE motherboard connector, during XP installation. Otherwise, the new drive would be dependent on the old drive. I have done as Andrew E. suggested , formatted as drive E (not exactly as suggested but my dvd is drive D) and then X copied from drive C . Bootable and the original drive. It appears that all my windows stuff is on drive E... Can I simply hook up drive E as drive C and boot from my new HD? Seems to easy.. > >I am wanting to install two new 250gb ata133 hard drives in my computer. They > >will be (eventually) replacing the currently installed 40 gb hd that operates [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > primary IDE motherboard connector, during XP installation. Otherwise, > the new drive would be dependent on the old drive. By now you should have that drive hooked up as "suggested" by AE..............did it work????? peter >I have done as Andrew E. suggested , formatted as drive E (not exactly as > suggested but my dvd is drive D) and then X copied from drive C . Bootable [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >> primary IDE motherboard connector, during XP installation. Otherwise, >> the new drive would be dependent on the old drive. I did not do the "page file" set up. I'm not sure that I really want to do that as I will be removing the old hard drive and building another computer with it. I had the new hard drive set as disk 0 with everything on it and was using programs and software from it ( hugely faster than my old drive ) but..... I could not set it as the system disk hmmm so I reformatted and am going to try a different approach. Now , as far as I could tell I need to have one of the new drives be the system disc to have my computer operate without the old drives. > By now you should have that drive hooked up as "suggested" by > AE..............did it work????? [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > >> primary IDE motherboard connector, during XP installation. Otherwise, > >> the new drive would be dependent on the old drive. The HD manufacturers usually have cloning software for free on their websites....that work only with their HD. Check it out. It basically clones your old HD to your new HD. install new HD in place of old and your up and running with the new HD being the system disk peter >I did not do the "page file" set up. I'm not sure that I really want to do > that as I will be removing the old hard drive and building another [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] >> >> primary IDE motherboard connector, during XP installation. Otherwise, >> >> the new drive would be dependent on the old drive. As mentioned at my other thread (in reply to you) , as far as I can tell Hitachi does not host the software on their site (english site). I think perhaps a call to hitachi is in order to get some (hopefully ) concise info on the use of their oem products. > The HD manufacturers usually have cloning software for free on their > websites....that work only with their HD. [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > >> >> primary IDE motherboard connector, during XP installation. Otherwise, > >> >> the new drive would be dependent on the old drive. |
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