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Kenny - 31 Jul 2008 12:18 GMT
Changed CMOS battery about 2 weeks ago because of the same error message.
It worked OK for about 10 days then the same message started appearing.
Is it likely I got a duff battery, it was bought from Woolworths?
Could anything on m/b be draining the battery?
PC Health in BIOS doesn't show battery voltage.

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Malke - 31 Jul 2008 13:29 GMT
> Changed CMOS battery about 2 weeks ago because of the same error message.
> It worked OK for about 10 days then the same message started appearing.
> Is it likely I got a duff battery, it was bought from Woolworths?
> Could anything on m/b be draining the battery?
> PC Health in BIOS doesn't show battery voltage.

It is extremely unlikely that anything was wrong with the little coin-shaped
battery. However, you can always test it by putting in another new one. I
just bought some packs of these at Target and they were about $4 for a pack
of two batteries.

If a new battery doesn't help, your motherboard is dying.

Malke
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Kenny - 31 Jul 2008 13:43 GMT
Thanks for the reply, I live outside town and it will be a few days before I
can get in to get another.
BTW a single CR2032 is £4.99 here, I think thats near enough $10 US, rip off
Britain again!

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>> Changed CMOS battery about 2 weeks ago because of the same error message.
>> It worked OK for about 10 days then the same message started appearing.
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> Malke
Malke - 31 Jul 2008 16:13 GMT
> Thanks for the reply, I live outside town and it will be a few days before
> I can get in to get another.
> BTW a single CR2032 is £4.99 here, I think thats near enough $10 US, rip
> off Britain again!

Maybe you're just buying them in the wrong store. I thought Woolworth's was
out of business years ago. Try your local equivalent of Target, office
supply store, or even a hardware store.

Malke
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Kenny - 31 Jul 2008 21:13 GMT
Thanks for all the replies.
Looking around a bit it seems that it's Woolies who are doing the rip off,
they're in Maplins at £2.09 and Currys at £1.99.

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>> Thanks for the reply, I live outside town and it will be a few days
>> before
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> Malke
Bob I - 31 Jul 2008 13:34 GMT
Use a tester to check the battery voltage, if less than 3v, it is dead.
If this happens with another new one from a different source (not old
stock), there is a motherboard issue. (look for swollen electrolytic
capacitors on the motherboard).

> Changed CMOS battery about 2 weeks ago because of the same error message.
> It worked OK for about 10 days then the same message started appearing.
> Is it likely I got a duff battery, it was bought from Woolworths?
> Could anything on m/b be draining the battery?
> PC Health in BIOS doesn't show battery voltage.
Paul - 31 Jul 2008 16:37 GMT
> Changed CMOS battery about 2 weeks ago because of the same error message.
> It worked OK for about 10 days then the same message started appearing.
> Is it likely I got a duff battery, it was bought from Woolworths?
> Could anything on m/b be draining the battery?
> PC Health in BIOS doesn't show battery voltage.

One reason for a CMOS battery to run down, is if the clear CMOS jumper
is in the wrong position. But you'd have some other symptoms if
that was the case, like losing your settings.

The CR2032 should be able to maintain 3.0V or greater for most of
its life. At roughly 2.4V, then the ability to power the CMOS would
be getting a bit dicey.

The CMOS circuitry may draw around 10 microamps, to there
is no real load to speak of. The battery should last 3 years or so,
if the computer is stored in the garage (i.e. running on battery
constantly). If the computer is always plugged in and left
switched ON (so +5VSB is available), then the PSU supplies
the 10 microamps. In that case, the battery lasts for its shelf life,
which could be up to 10 years.

And there ARE bad batteries at some of the lower volume stores.
I picked a couple silver oxide up at an actual "battery store"
in the mall, and they died after a couple days. So there is crap being
offered for sale. Since then, I look for high volume sellers.

Batteries can be counterfeit, and the vendor might not even
know. There may be very little working material on the
inside, for example. Even a Japanese battery might be
faked, by someone in China. All it takes is a retailer
who thinks they're getting a "bargain".

   Paul
 
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