Removing trays from XP SP2 box

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rock - 04 Sep 2008 08:31 GMT

HI,

I have an XP SP2 box with 3 HD trays and and I was wondering what is the
accepted way to use them

Can I turn them off and take them out whilst everything is going or do I
have to turn everything off first.

Thanks

rock

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Dragomir Kollaric - 04 Sep 2008 19:48 GMT

> HI,
>
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> Can I turn them off and take them out whilst everything is
> going or do I have to turn everything off first.

To be on the safe side, I'd turn off the PC and then unplug
the power-cord. But *which* types of trays are they? Is
there a HDD in each of them already? My crystal-ball is
in for repair and without more information it would be
guess-work..

> Thanks
>
> rock

Dragomir Kollaric

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rock - 05 Sep 2008 01:13 GMT

>> HI,
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>
> Dragomir Kollaric

Yes the trays already have working IDe's in them, NOT the OS, but data.

I have had them about 2 years and they have a small fan at back and a
couple have a small key lock at front whilst others have a slide lock.

I have read many times about 'Hot' swapping and for what id o, that
would be great but cannot read anywhere definitely how and when it
should be use.

Thanks

rock

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Thomas Wendell - 05 Sep 2008 09:00 GMT

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>>> HI,
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> rock

IDE devices are not hot-swappable

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Bob I - 05 Sep 2008 13:24 GMT

>>> HI,
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> rock

IDE is NOT hotswapable. Shut down the PC to switch the drives.

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smlunatick - 05 Sep 2008 16:00 GMT

> >>> HI,
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> IDE is NOT hotswapable. Shut down the PC to switch the drives.

It is true that IDE by the "default" standards are not "hot
swappable." However, the OP must inquire with the hot swap tray
manufacturer so as to see if the ones the OP has is "hot swappable."
I currently have a PC with two IDE tray that can be "hot swapped"
providing the drives are not being accessed / locked.

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Bob I - 05 Sep 2008 16:37 GMT

>>>>>HI,
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> I currently have a PC with two IDE tray that can be "hot swapped"
> providing the drives are not being accessed / locked.

So the hardware turns them off and then you exchange them? I would think
the disk cache in XP would still throw a royal fit.

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smlunatick - 05 Sep 2008 18:10 GMT

> >>>>>HI,
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> So the hardware turns them off and then you exchange them? I would think
> the disk cache in XP would still throw a royal fit.

Part of the tray device drivers handle the "hot swap" but there is
only one requirement: XP boot drive must not be on one of these trays.

However, with the SATA drive as the current hardware standard, SATA
has "hot swap" part of the default specs. Same restrictions may apply
(XP boot drive might not be "hot swappable" but I have not set any of
these yet.")

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Bob I - 05 Sep 2008 18:37 GMT

>>>>>>>HI,
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> (XP boot drive might not be "hot swappable" but I have not set any of
> these yet.")

I suspect bootdrive AND the swapfile drive would be off limits with the
SATA too.

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