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is there a way to remove windows messenger (the one that come with windows xp) ?. i have the new msn messenger, and when i am sign in with my new messenger, the windows messenger automaticly sign in, and sign me out from my msn messenger. is there a way to fix this???....plz help Greetings Fallen, Although you can forcibly remove Windows Messenger, if you do, features like Remote Assistance, Whiteboard and Application Sharing within MSN Messenger 6.x and Windows will no longer work. As well, some applications that specifically call on Messenger (like for example Outlook Express) will appear to freeze or refuse to load as they try to start Messenger (you can however, turn off this functionality to fix this problem). Instead, you can simply disable Windows Messenger. To do so, open it up (click Start, then Run, type "msmsgs" and click OK), click Tools, Options, Preferences tab and uncheck 'Run this Program when Windows starts' or 'Run Windows Messenger when Windows starts' (depending on version) as well as 'Allow this program to run in the background' or 'Allow Windows Messenger to run in the background' (depending on version). This won't remove Windows Messenger, so features like Remote Assistance, Whiteboard and Application Sharing will continue to work, but it will let it stay out of your way. Also, do you have Norton Antivirus installed? Recent versions of Norton Antivirus added a new "instant messaging scanning" feature, which can conflict with Messenger and cause it to also keep starting. To stop it, open Norton Antivirus (Right-click on the Norton Antivirus icon in the System Tray/Notification Area (by the clock), choose 'Open Norton Antivirus'), click Options, then Instant Messenger then uncheck MSN Instant Messenger and click OK. If you'd prefer to just remove Windows Messenger however, you can do so by following the instructions here: http://messenger.jonathankay.com/problem.aspx?ID=7 ____________________________________________ Jonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay. You *must* contact me for redistribution rights. > is there a way to remove windows messenger (the one that come with windows xp) ?. i have > the new msn messenger, and when i am sign in with my new messenger, the windows messenger > automaticly sign in, and sign me out from my msn messenger. is there a way to fix > this???....plz help > Greetings Fallen, > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > hey, thanks allot! Hi Fallen, You're very welcome =) ____________________________________________ Jonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay. You *must* contact me for redistribution rights. >> Greetings Fallen, >> [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] >> >> hey, thanks allot! I've followed your instructions about uninstalling MSN messenger but nnow I can't reinstall it again. Any suggestions please. thank you very much. ja > Greetings Fallen, > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > automaticly sign in, and sign me out from my msn messenger. is there a way to fix > > this???....plz help Greetings, What happens when you try to install it (error messages, etc.)?  SignatureJonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Live Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay. You *must* contact me for redistribution rights. -- > I've followed your instructions about uninstalling MSN messenger but nnow I > can't reinstall it again. Any suggestions please. [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >> > automaticly sign in, and sign me out from my msn messenger. is there a way to fix >> > this???....plz help > Also, do you have Norton Antivirus installed? Recent versions of Norton Antivirus added a > new "instant messaging scanning" feature, which can conflict with Messenger and cause it to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > http://messenger.jonathankay.com/problem.aspx?ID=7 > ____________________________________________ Hi Jonathan, I have also been experiencing a similar problem. However, by disabling the IM protection of Norton, am I not opening myself up to viruses that someone can transmit to me via MSN Msger? Another problem I am experiencing in addition to Msger 7.5 being "interrrupted" is other people seeing my Msger as being active even when my PC isn't even on. I *do not* have Msger enabled at startup; I prefer to manually start up MSN Msger when I want to use it. Additionally, I have removed Windows Msger as I use Outlook, not Outlook express and it is functioning fine without the Win Msger. Thanks for you feedback, ~SubMariner~ Greetings, No, by disabling such functionality in Norton you're simply removing their automatic scanning when files are transferred in Messenger. Messenger now has its own virus scanning capabilities (when turned on) which can use Norton and the file will be scanned again when the file is run. So, assuming you had all three of these on, the file would be scanned -3- times which is brutally pointless. Are you sure you've completely removed Windows Messenger? What you're describing is classic symptoms of Windows Messenger running in the background. You can double-check by opening up the Task Manager (press Ctrl-Alt-Del), choosing the process tab and looking for msmsgs.exe which is Windows Messenger (msnmsgr.exe is MSN Messenger). SignatureJonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Live Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay. You *must* contact me for redistribution rights. -- > Hi Jonathan, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > ~SubMariner~ Hi Jonathan, > Greetings, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the file is run. So, assuming you had all three of these on, the file would be scanned -3- > times which is brutally pointless. Ok. I've done this & disabled the Norton AV scanning of Messenger. > Are you sure you've completely removed Windows Messenger? What you're describing is classic > symptoms of Windows Messenger running in the background. You can double-check by opening up > the Task Manager (press Ctrl-Alt-Del), choosing the process tab and looking for msmsgs.exe > which is Windows Messenger (msnmsgr.exe is MSN Messenger). I checked the task manager & it does not show up. I also ran the remove sequence you described in one of your first msgs in this thread: "RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove " but I get a msg that says "MSN Messenger 4.7 is not installed on this PC". HOWEVER, when I go into my Program files I see that MSN Messenger is indeed in the program files. If I try to remove it, it takes my ability to IM out. So I guess I'm getting confused as to why they are both there in the first place & how I can get rid of the Windows messenger & still have my IM capability. FYI, I'm running Messenger 7.5. I see that Messenger Live is available, but isn't that just at the Beta stage & not really ready for mass consumption? Sorry for all the questions, but it's getting a bit frustrating & confusing. ~SubMariner~ "SubMariner" <SubMariner@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:BAFCEFD8-AFF2-44AE-85CD-> > I checked the task manager & it does not show up. I also ran the remove > sequence you described in one of your first msgs in this thread: "RunDll32 > advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove " but I get a > msg that says "MSN Messenger 4.7 is not installed on this PC". Then Windows Messenger (not MSN Messenger) is gone. There actually was never a MSN Messenger 4.7. > HOWEVER, when I go into my Program files I see that MSN Messenger is indeed > in the program files. If I try to remove it, it takes my ability to IM out. This is MSN Messenger 7.5. > FYI, I'm running Messenger 7.5. I see that Messenger Live is available, but > isn't that just at the Beta stage & not really ready for mass consumption? Windows Live Messenger was released and is now out of the beta stage. Feel free to upgrade. SignatureJonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Live Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay. You *must* contact me for redistribution rights. -- > "SubMariner" <SubMariner@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:BAFCEFD8-AFF2-44AE-85CD-> > > I checked the task manager & it does not show up. I also ran the remove > > sequence you described in one of your first msgs in this thread: "RunDll32 > > advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove " but I get a msg that says "MSN Messenger 4.7 is not installed on this PC". > Then Windows Messenger (not MSN Messenger) is gone. There actually was never a MSN Messenger 4.7. > > FYI, I'm running Messenger 7.5. I see that Messenger Live is available, but > > isn't that just at the Beta stage & not really ready for mass consumption? > Windows Live Messenger was released and is now out of the beta stage. Feel free to upgrade. Ok. Guess I now have my nomenclature corrected. It's WINDOWS Messenger that was removed by putting running that "remove" sequence. However, people are still seeing me "online" when my PC isn't even on. Is this still a Windows Msger problem? And if so, why is it still happening when I ran that "remove" sequence as you suggested? Meanwhile, I upgrade to the Windows Live how do I make sure that it DOES NOT install into my Startup? Thanks again, >Meanwhile, I upgrade to the Windows Live how do I make sure that it DOES >NOT install into my Startup? #1. In Option, under General tab make sure the Automatically run Windows Livce Messenger when I log on to windows #2. Open Start, then Run and type msconfig The last tab should be Startup. Check if you have msnmsgr.exe there, if you do, uncheck it. SignatureVitalie Ciobanu AISBERG http://aisberg.rau.ro >> "SubMariner" <SubMariner@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:BAFCEFD8-AFF2-44AE-85CD-> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Thanks again, You actually can't stop it via msconfig -- it'll start anyway. SignatureJonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay. You *must* contact me for redistribution rights. -- > #2. Open Start, then Run and type msconfig > The last tab should be Startup. Check if you have msnmsgr.exe there, if you do, uncheck it. Hm.. didn't know that... Thanks! SignatureVitalie Ciobanu AISBERG http://aisberg.rau.ro > You actually can't stop it via msconfig -- it'll start anyway. > >> #2. Open Start, then Run and type msconfig >> The last tab should be Startup. Check if you have msnmsgr.exe there, if >> you do, uncheck it. > You actually can't stop it via msconfig -- it'll start anyway. Yeesh. Why is are the Msger programs being made so invasive? Consumers want the ability to start & stop it when THEY want to. IF I AM GOING TO INSTALL MSGER LIVE I WANT THIS ABILITY. Meanwhile, I am STILL experiencing the logging off problem even though I have disabled my Norton AV policing of Msger & run that "remove" procedure as previously mentioned in this thread. Thanks, ~SubMariner~ >SubMariner" wrote: > > You actually can't stop it via msconfig -- it'll start anyway. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > ~SubMariner~ BTW, today I "saw" myself (MSN Messenger) online while on another PC and mine wasn't even running! What is going on with this? windows live refuses to install I keep getting error code 1601, is there any advice out there, help. thank you Signaturethank you > > "SubMariner" <SubMariner@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:BAFCEFD8-AFF2-44AE-85CD-> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Thanks again, Greetings, This indicates that the Windows Installer is damaged. To correct this, click Start, then Run, and type the following: %systemroot%\system32\msiexec.exe /regserver then click OK. Then try again. SignatureJonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Live Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay. You *must* contact me for redistribution rights. -- > windows live refuses to install I keep getting error code 1601, is there any > advice out there, help. thank you [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >> >> Thanks again, Hi Jonathan, Can I get a reply to my postings of 7/3 and 7/4? Thanks, ~SubMariner~ > "SubMariner" <SubMariner@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:BAFCEFD8-AFF2-44AE-85CD-> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > isn't that just at the Beta stage & not really ready for mass consumption? > Windows Live Messenger was released and is now out of the beta stage. Feel free to upgrade. I am hoping you can help me. I am running winXP Pro, serv pk 2, installed the latest and greatest Windows Live Messenger (even tried the Beta version), and when I try to use Remote Assistance I get this message: Your invitation was not sent because you need the latest version of Messenger to use the Remote Assistance feature. Please go to the Windows Live Messenger update site to install the latest version. I have tried to uninstall, reboot, reinstall, in various ways and cannot seem to solve the problem. Can you help? Thanks, Mathew Greetings Matthew, What's indicating is that you need Windows Messenger installed to do Remote Assistance in Windows Live Messenger. Yes you need the old Windows Messenger to do something in the latest Windows Live Messenger. I realize the wording is wrong and I realize the link is wrong. It's been reported and someday Microsoft might even fix it. Anyway, what you need to do is install Windows Messenger (you don't need to use it, it just has to be there) from: http://microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=a8d9eb73-5f8c-4b9a-940f-915 7a3b3d774 After this, Remote Assistance should work from Windows Live Messenger. SignatureJonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay. You *must* contact me for redistribution rights. -- > I am hoping you can help me. > I am running winXP Pro, serv pk 2, installed the latest and greatest Windows [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Mathew Gee thanks man, almost tore my hair out after upgrading to live messenger 8.5 then getting this error - Your invitation was not sent because you need the latest version of Messenger to use the Remote Assistance feature. Found you reply, followed the link & it worked like magic. Happy Bunny again!!! > Greetings Matthew, > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > > > Mathew Hi, For the record, I have tried to get this fixed, unsuccessfully. :( SignatureJonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2007 Jonathan Kay. You *must* contact me for redistribution rights. -- > Gee thanks man, almost tore my hair out after upgrading to live messenger 8.5 > then getting this error - [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >> > >> > Mathew |
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