Windows 98 and XP networked by crossover cable

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Kev - 30 Apr 2004 22:26 GMT

I have a problem setting up a network between one XP Pro
machine and a Win98SE machine.

They each hae an ethernet card. I do not have a hub, so
want to connect them by a crossover. When I plug in the
crossover to both pcs, the connection lights come on,
showing that they know there's another computer about.

The XP comp has this config:
IP 192.168.1.1
mask 255.255.255.0
gw 192.168.1.1

The 98 comp has this config:
IP 192.168.1.2
mask 255.255.255.0
gw 192.168.1.2

basically, all I want to do is copy a lot of files from
the 98 pc to the XP pc. The 98 pc doesn't have a burner,
which'd make this easier. I just have acrossover between
the two.

Neither can access the other. At all.

WHen I run ipconfig on the 98 machine, I get 4 results,
each an PPP or AOL dialup adapter, each saying ip address
0.0.0.0

The actual ethernet card installed doesn't seem to show
up!

Help please!!!!

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Jerry - 30 Apr 2004 22:34 GMT

The computers won't see each other unless they are in the same workgroup;
check that first.

Then, you must have the drives/folders on #1 shared so they can be 'seen' by
#2.

> I have a problem setting up a network between one XP Pro
> machine and a Win98SE machine.
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> Help please!!!!

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Kev - 30 Apr 2004 22:49 GMT

They are in the same workgroup, called simply "WORKGROUP".

If I don't share the folders yet, shouldn't I still be
able to see the other comp in Network
Neighbourhood\Places?

>-----Original Message-----
>The computers won't see each other unless they are in the same workgroup;
>check that first.
>
>Then, you must have the drives/folders on #1 shared so they can be 'seen' by
>#2.

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Jerry - 30 Apr 2004 22:53 GMT

If there is nothing 'shared' then what is to be seen?

> They are in the same workgroup, called simply "WORKGROUP".
>
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> they can be 'seen' by
> >#2.

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Kev - 30 Apr 2004 23:38 GMT

Doh!

Sorry, I just realised that while the network card was
configurable, there was an error with it in device
manager.

Its fixed now, and the comps can see each other okay.

Many Thanks for your help!! :)

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>If there is nothing 'shared' then what is to be seen?
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Steve Winograd [MVP] - 30 Apr 2004 23:24 GMT

>The computers won't see each other unless they are in the same workgroup;
>check that first.

Using the same workgroup for all computers makes networking a little
easier, but it isn't necessary. Windows networking supports multiple
workgroups. Computers in any workgroup can access computers in any
workgroup.

To access another computer, regardless of what workgroup it's in, type
its name in the Start | Run box in this format:

\\computer

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Steve Winograd [MVP] - 30 Apr 2004 23:30 GMT

>I have a problem setting up a network between one XP Pro
>machine and a Win98SE machine.
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>Help please!!!!

If 98's network card doesn't appear in the Ipconfig output, something
is wrong. Go to Control Panel | Network. If there's a
"TCP/IP->network card" entry, remove it. Then install TCP/IP using
Add | Protocol | Add | Microsoft | TCP/IP.

Permanently disable XP's Internet Connection Firewall on the local
area network connection. It's meant for use only on a direct modem
connection to the Internet, and it blocks File and Printer Sharing.

Un-install all other firewall programs (ZoneAlarm, Norton Internet
Security, etc) while troubleshooting the network.

To test the network, enter these lines in a command prompt window on
each computer. Each line should get 4 replies:

ping 192.168.1.1
ping 192.168.1.2
ping <first computer's name>
ping <second computer's name>

Remove the default gateway specification on each computer. The
default gateway is used for Internet access, not local area network
access, and a computer can't be its own default gateway.

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