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Windows Forum / Windows XP / Networking and Web / January 2005Can't see other PCs on LAN
I have 2 PCs, 1 is an HP the other is an eMachine. Both are running XP home - Non SP2. I have a linksys BEFW11S4 wireless router which the HP is directly connected to. The eMachine is connected via a linksys wusb11 wireless network adapter. However, I cannot transfer files between the 2 machines. Both computers are using DHCP. The emachine's IP address of 192.168.1.102 and the HP's address is 192.168.1.110. Both computers are in the workgroup WONDERFUL. Both machines have ZoneAlarm loaded but turned off, both are running Norton Antivirus Version 7 or 8,but NOT Norton System works. Neither machine has MS's Internet FireWall running or MS's ICS. Both machines have Ad-aware 6 and Spybot 1.3 loaded. Both machines can directly connect to the internet and surf the web, send and receive email. But either machine can see the other on the LAN. Yesterday, a friend brought over a laptop with a wireless NIC in it. He turned it on, and was able to see the HP and transfer files. The laptop wasn't even in the same workgroup nor a user on either machine. But the laptop could NOT see the eMachine. None of the 3 machines have the same user on them. In the past I have created a the same user on the HP and the eMachine and that didn't seem to help. I've loaded NETBEUI on both machines. Now under "My Net Work Places\Entire Network\Microsoft Windows Network\myworkgroup both machines see themselves, but neither can see the other machine. I either get nothing or I get the error that "You don't have permissions..." I've scanned through this forum looking for info and searched the KB and other places. Some of the things I've tried: 1. Emailed Linksys for help - nothing received from them helped 2. http://www.careyholzman.com/xp/home/xphome-1.htm 3. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=177078 4. Set NetBEUI as the Default Sharing Protocol in WinXP. - http://www.ezlan.net/netbeui.html 5. Windows XP Home Network Setup: Step-by-Step - http://www.careyholzman.com/xp/home/xphome-1.htm 6. How to reset Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/kb/299357 - DID IT!!! - no help 7. How to troubleshoot home networking in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308007 8. Troubleshooting Internet Connection Sharing in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308006/EN-US/ 9. How to determine and recover from Winsock2 corruption http://support.microsoft.com/kb/811259 - Don't get any of the errors and have the right sections under protocol 10. When you try to check another network connection you receive the "Ping: transmit failed, error code 65" error message http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q316414 11. How to troubleshoot TCP/IP connectivity with Windows XP Method 4: Use the Arp tool to clear the ARP cache http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314067/EN-US 12. Turned off the onboard Ethernet card on the eMachine using the wireless adapter. 13. ControlPanel\Administrative Tools\Services - Check that the "Server" services is Started. 14. Tried setting both machines with static IPs and entering them in the HOSTS file 15. Both computers are on same workgroup - both have "GUEST" account. The user account on both machines is different, but both are administrators. 16. Checked Registry for LSA\restrictanonymous regkey is set to hexadecimal '0', HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa\restrictanonymous. " \restrictanonymoussam = 1 17. File Printer and Sharing services are installed for both TCPIP and NETBEUI Any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated. I've been fighting this problem for well over 6 mo. I have over 20hr trying to figure this out. John John T. Blair WA4OHZ email: jblair1948@cox.net Va. Beach, Va (eBay id: zebra48-1) Phone: (757) 495-8229 48 TR1800 48 #4 Midget 65 Morgan 4/4 Series V (B1109) 75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887) 77 Spitfire 71 Saab Sonett III 65 Rambler Classic Morgan: www.team.net/www/morgan Bricklin: www.bricklin.org can you ping each other? if yes, what do you receive if using net view \\ip or \\hostname?  SignatureFor more and other information, go to http://howtonetworking.com. Don't send e-mail or reply to me except you need consulting services. Posting on MS newsgroup will benefit all readers and you may get more help. Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE How to Setup Windows, Network, Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties. >I have 2 PCs, 1 is an HP the other is an eMachine. Both are running XP > home - Non SP2. I have a linksys BEFW11S4 wireless router which the HP [quoted text clipped - 89 lines] > Morgan: www.team.net/www/morgan > Bricklin: www.bricklin.org > I have 2 PCs, 1 is an HP the other is an eMachine. Both are running XP > home - Non SP2. I have a linksys BEFW11S4 wireless router which the HP [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] > Morgan: www.team.net/www/morgan > Bricklin: www.bricklin.org Sorry about the first post.(newbie). I am having the exact same problem. I have an HP laptop and 2 desktops running through a netgear wgt624v2 connected to a Direcway DW6000 through the WAN port. All the PCs can access the internet and the two desktops can see each other and exchange files. The laptop cannot see the two desktops but the desktops can see the laptop. However, if I try to connect to the laptop from the desktop I get an error message that I do not have permission. This has been going on since last fall and I cannot figure it out. I have a friend who has the same problem with a linksys router and a DSL modem with an HP laptop and a desktop. I can also say that this was happening before I installed SP2. Also, my router is a wireless and I have the problem when I connect wirelessly to the router but if I connect via cable, I STILL have the problem. >Bob wrote: >can you ping each other? if yes, what do you receive if using net view \\ip >or \\hostname? When I ping the HP from the eMachine I get - It resolves the IP to (192.168.1.110) which is correct, but get message "Request timed out" When I try \\198.162.1.110 (the IP of the HP) I get - "192.168.1.110 - Network path not found" When I try \\youngman (the HP) I get - "192.168.1.110 - network path not found" I found a new problem this morning: a. I can ping my router (192.168.1.1) from the eMachine, but I CAN'T log into it. I can STILL get to the internet thought. I CAN log into the router from the HP. b. When I look at the DHCP listing on the router, all I see is the HP (192.168.1.110) Don't know what's caused this. John > I found a new problem this morning: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > b. When I look at the DHCP listing on the router, all I see is the HP > (192.168.1.110) I rebooted the eMachine and can now log into the router. The router DHCP table is now showing IPs for both machines. Don't know what caused that glitch. I CAN ping the router now, but can't ping the HP from the eMachine - get a request timed out error message. I can't ping the eMachine from the HP either - I get an error 65 John >>Bob wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >John John, From the symptoms which you've provided, I'll guess you have one or more problems: - Browser conflict (not Internet Explorer). - Authentication / authorisation issue between two or more computers. - Name resolution problem. If you want to diagnose the problem, provide ipconfig information for each computer. Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, make sure that Format - Word Wrap is NOT checked!, copy and paste entire contents into your next post. Identify operating system (by name, version, and SP level) with each ipconfig listing. Also, what firewalls (Windows built-in or third party) do you have now, or were ever installed? SignatureCheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck sonic net. > From the symptoms which you've provided, I'll guess you have one or more > problems: > - Browser conflict (not Internet Explorer). Chuck, Don't know about the browser issue. I use both IE and Netscape 7.1 But when I'm trying to see the other computer I'm using Windows Explorer. > - Authentication / authorisation issue between two or more computers. That could be. I don't know how to check this. Both machines have a "guest" account and it's ON. The shared directoreis are set up under the "properties" "sharing" tab, to Network sharing and Security - Share this folder on the newtwork is checked. Allow network users to change my files is NOT checked. > - Name resolution problem. Could be, don't know how to check/fix this. > If you want to diagnose the problem, provide ipconfig information for each > computer. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Also, what firewalls (Windows built-in or third party) do you have now, or were > ever installed? Here's the ipconfig info on the 2 machines: I have NO firewalls running at this time. The only thing is Norton Antivirus Ver 7 - I do not have Norton System Works or anything like that. I've heard that one of the spy ware programs can cause problems. I have Ad-aware 6 on both machines and Spybot on one. ----------- eMachine OS XP Home Ver 2002 Service Pack 1 Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : JohnDaddy Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 2: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hr.cox.net Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Instant Wireless USB Network Adapter ver.2.6 Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-41-0C-F0-22 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.102 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.10.16.25 68.10.16.30 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, January 29, 2005 11:39:59 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, January 30, 2005 11:39:59 PM ------------- HP computer OS: XP home Ver 2002 SP 1 Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : youngman Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter realtek: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hr.cox.net Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-40-2B-3B-A4-54 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.101 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.10.16.25 68.10.16.30 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, January 30, 2005 9:53:05 AM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, January 31, 2005 9:53:05 AM Thanks for the help John >> From the symptoms which you've provided, I'll guess you have one or more >> problems: [quoted text clipped - 91 lines] > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, January 30, 2005 9:53:05 AM > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, January 31, 2005 9:53:05 AM OK, John. Node Types on both are compatible - Hybrid and Unknown are OK. Zone Alarm is well known for causing file sharing problems. You should start by un installing it (not disabling it) per this article: <http://nh2.nohold.net/noHoldCust25/Prod_1/Articles55646/CompleteUninstallNonNT.html> Check for a browser conflict between the two computers. I"m not talking about Internet Explorer here. The browser is the program that allows any computer to see any other computer on the LAN. On a two computer LAN, having the browser running on both may cause problems like yours. Make sure the browser service is running on one computer only. Control Panel - Administrative Tools - Services. Verify that the Computer Browser, and the TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper, services both show with Status = Started. Disable the browser on the other computer. After checking / disabling / enabling as above, power all computers off to reset the browser settings on each. Then power both back on. The Microsoft Browstat program will show us what browsers (I'm not talking about Internet Explorer here) you have in your domain / workgroup, at any time. http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305 You can download Browstat from either: <http://www.dynawell.com/reskit/microsoft/win2000/browstat.zip> <http://rescomp.stanford.edu/staff/manual/rcc/tools/browstat.zip> Browstat is very small (40K), and needs no install. Just unzip the downloaded file, copy browstat.exe to any folder in the Path, and run it from a command window, by "browstat status". Make sure all computers list the same master browser. For more information about the browser subsystem (very intricate), see: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188001 http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305 <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/deploy/prodspecs/ntbrowse.mspx> SignatureCheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck sonic net. Chuck, >Zone Alarm is well known for causing file sharing problems. You should start by >un installing it (not disabling it) per this article: Done!!! - no change >Make sure the browser service is running on one computer only. Control Panel - >Administrative Tools - Services. Verify that the Computer Browser, and the >TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper, services both show with Status = Started. Disable the >browser on the other computer. Done. The Browser was running on both. I turned it off on the HP machine. - no change >After checking / disabling / enabling as above, power all computers off to reset >the browser settings on each. Then power both back on. DONE!!! - no change Browstat is very small (40K), and needs no install. Just unzip the downloaded file, copy browstat.exe to any folder in the Path, and run it from a command window, by "browstat status". Make sure all computers list the same master browser. Running Browstat on the HP which DOES NOT have the browser running: Status for domain WONDERFUL on transport \Device\Nbf_NdisWanNbfOut{9578CE43-87B9-44F1-8888-A1A091450DD5} Browsing is NOT active on domain. Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Status for domain WONDERFUL on transport \Device\Nbf_NdisWanNbfIn{56479F1F-AD23-4ED5-A25C-A12BE988B4D8} Browsing is NOT active on domain. Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Status for domain WONDERFUL on transport \Device\Nbf_NdisWanNbfOut{74B7ECCE-7409-4BFF-AC6C-9C71044EB3E8} Browsing is NOT active on domain. Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Status for domain WONDERFUL on transport \Device\Nbf_NdisWanNbfOut{63554E8B-7987-405D-B0DF-FBDC7D694363} Browsing is NOT active on domain. Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Status for domain WONDERFUL on transport \Device\Nbf_NdisWanNbfIn{7C7AB7D9-8D5F-4EE5-8C05-EA9C2AB10367} Browsing is NOT active on domain. Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Status for domain WONDERFUL on transport \Device\Nbf_NdisWanNbfIn{300FEFDA-A379-4E42-B861-63F4C49FD4F1} Browsing is NOT active on domain. Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Status for domain WONDERFUL on transport \Device\Nbf_{C7E941F9-DAA6-424F-97EF-309867E08AFA} Browsing is NOT active on domain. Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Status for domain WONDERFUL on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C7E941F9-DAA6-424F-97EF-309867E08AFA} Browsing is NOT active on domain. Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. --------------- Browstat results from the eMachine that HAS Browser running on it: Status for domain WONDERFUL on transport \Device\Nbf_NdisWanNbfOut{8D5361BB-E12A-4058-BDC9-2E1057DFEE45} Browsing is NOT active on domain. Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Status for domain WONDERFUL on transport \Device\Nbf_NdisWanNbfOut{C2805194-B1C9-44C5-88B1-795441484F5F} Browsing is NOT active on domain. Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Status for domain WONDERFUL on transport \Device\Nbf_NdisWanNbfOut{B9140884-8873-40D5-9EF5-58F2E94EF8A3} Browsing is NOT active on domain. Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Status for domain WONDERFUL on transport \Device\Nbf_NdisWanNbfIn{AC16C488-8EB6-4D9A-9F89-017C7D574E37} Browsing is NOT active on domain. Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Status for domain WONDERFUL on transport \Device\Nbf_NdisWanNbfIn{E0B68476-694C-481B-AE73-142B29503B3C} Browsing is NOT active on domain. Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Status for domain WONDERFUL on transport \Device\Nbf_NdisWanNbfIn{95FD5F5C-F74B-4C8B-BA48-E2BA0F61B784} Browsing is NOT active on domain. Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Status for domain WONDERFUL on transport \Device\Nbf_{494F8806-2BA7-4CE3-848E-41D3B11C12FC} Browsing is active on domain. Master browser name is: JOHNDADDY Master browser is running build 2600 1 backup servers retrieved from master JOHNDADDY \\JOHNDADDY There are 1 servers in domain WONDERFUL on transport \Device\Nbf_{494F8806-2BA7-4CE3-848E-41D3B11C12FC} There are 1 domains in domain WONDERFUL on transport \Device\Nbf_{494F8806-2BA7-4CE3-848E-41D3B11C12FC} Status for domain WONDERFUL on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{494F8806-2BA7-4CE3-848E-41D3B11C12FC} Browsing is active on domain. Master browser name is: JOHNDADDY Master browser is running build 2600 1 backup servers retrieved from master JOHNDADDY \\JOHNDADDY Unable to retrieve server list from JOHNDADDY: 53 John John T. Blair WA4OHZ email: jblair1948@cox.net Va. Beach, Va (eBay id: zebra48-1) Phone: (757) 495-8229 48 TR1800 48 #4 Midget 65 Morgan 4/4 Series V (B1109) 75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887) 77 Spitfire 71 Saab Sonett III 65 Rambler Classic Morgan: www.team.net/www/morgan Bricklin: www.bricklin.org >Chuck, > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >Running Browstat on the HP which DOES NOT have the browser running: <SNIP browstat listing with a lot of transports> >--------------- > >Browstat results from the eMachine that HAS Browser running on it: <SNIP browstat listing with a lot of transports> >Status for domain WONDERFUL on transport >\Device\Nbf_{494F8806-2BA7-4CE3-848E-41D3B11C12FC} [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > \\JOHNDADDY > Unable to retrieve server list from JOHNDADDY: 53 John, OK, this is getting better. To start, you need to eliminate excess protocols from the list of items under Local Area Connection Properties. You only need the following items in the list: Client for Microsoft Networks File and Printer Sharing For Microsoft Networks QoS Packet Scheduler (optional) Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) Then, make sure that NetBIOS Over TCP/IP is enabled on both computers. Local Area Connection - Properties - TCP/IP - Properties - Advanced - WINS - Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP. You specifically shouldn't require IPX/SPX or NetBEUI. Also, the browser requires anonymous access, so look at registry key [HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa], value restrictanonymous. <http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/default.asp?url=/wind ows2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/regentry/46688.asp> <http://www.jsifaq.com/subf/tip2600/rh2625.htm> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=246261 http://support.microsoft.com/?id=296403 The above articles refer to Windows 2000. Remember WinXP is NT V5.1, and Win2K is NT V5.0. Have you used the Registry Editor before? If not, it's a scary tool, but it's pretty simple once you get used to it. Here are a couple articles that might help: <http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/using/productdoc/en/default.asp?url=/win dowsxp/home/using/productdoc/en/tools_regeditors.asp> <http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/registry> Just remember to backup the key (create a registry patch) for [HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa] before making any changes, if appropriate. From the Annoyances article: You can create a Registry patch by opening the Registry Editor, selecting a branch, and choosing Export from the File menu. Then, specify a filename, and press OK. You can then view the Registry patch file by opening it in Notepad (right-click on it and select Edit). Again, just double-click on a Registry patch file (or use Import in the Registry Editor's File menu) to apply it to the registry. Once all that's done, let's enumerate your problem. Take the following code (everything inside the "#####"). (Did I get the names and ip addresses right)? Highlight then Copy the code (Ctrl-C), precisely as it is keyed, and Paste (Ctrl-V) into Notepad. Ensure that Format - Word Wrap is not checked. Save the Notepad file as "cdiag.cmd", as type "All Files", into the root folder "C:\". Run it by Start - Run - "c:\cdiag". Wait patiently. When Notepad opens up displaying c:\cdiag.txt, first check Format and ensure that Word Wrap is NOT checked! Then, copy the entire contents (Ctrl-A Ctrl-C) and paste (Ctrl-V) into your next post. Do this from both computers, please, with both computers powered up and online (connected as best as possible). ##### @echo off set FullTargets=JohnDaddy 192.168.1.102 youngman 192.168.1.101 set PingTargets=127.0.0.1 Set Version=V1.05 @echo CDiagnosis %Version% >c:\cdiag.txt @echo Start diagnosis for %computername% (Targets %FullTargets%) >>c:\cdiag.txt for %%a in (%FullTargets% %PingTargets%) do ( @echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt @echo Target %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt @echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt @echo "ping %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt @echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt ping %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt @echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt @echo "net view %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt @echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt net view %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt ) @echo End diagnosis for %computername% >>c:\cdiag.txt notepad c:\cdiag.txt :EOF ##### SignatureCheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck sonic net. >Chuck wrote: >OK, this is getting better. Chuck, I hope so. :) >To start, you need to eliminate excess protocols from the list of items under >Local Area Connection Properties.... That's what I had to start with, but couldn't see anything. I'd heard that you can install NETBEUI and see the LAN so I tried it. I've removed NETBEUI from the list. So I now have: Client for Microsoft Networks File and Printer Sharing For Microsoft Networks Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) >Then, make sure that NetBIOS Over TCP/IP is enabled on both computers. Local >Area Connection - Properties - TCP/IP - Properties - Advanced - WINS - Enable >NetBIOS over TCP/IP. Done !! >You specifically shouldn't require IPX/SPX or NetBEUI. > >Also, the browser requires anonymous access, so look at registry key [HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa], value restrictanonymous. Found that a couple of days ago. restrictanonymous = 0 I also have restrictanonymoussam = 1 >Have you used the Registry Editor before? If not, it's a scary tool, but it's >pretty simple once you get used to it. Yes. Very familuar with regedit. ://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/registry> Once all that's done, let's enumerate your problem. Take the following code (everything inside the "#####"). (Did I get the names and ip addresses right)? You had youngman wrong 192.168.1.101 vise 192.168.1.110 but I fixed that. Highlight then Copy the code (Ctrl-C), precisely as it is keyed, and Paste (Ctrl-V) into Notepad..... I did. While I ran it on johndaddy (the eMachine) I got the following: first - while it was running the following error was displayed in the DOS window: --------- System error 51 has occurred. Windows cannot find the network path. Verify that the network path is correct and the destination computer is not busy or turned off. If windows still cannot find the network path, contact you network administrator. System error 53 has occurred The network path was not found. System error 53 has occurred The network path was not found. --------- Here's what's in the cdiag.txt file: CDiagnosis V1.05 Start diagnosis for JOHNDADDY (Targets JohnDaddy 192.168.1.102 youngman 192.168.1.110) Target JohnDaddy "ping JohnDaddy" Pinging JohnDaddy [192.168.1.102] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 192.168.1.102: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.102: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.102: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.102: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Ping statistics for 192.168.1.102: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms "net view JohnDaddy" Shared resources at JohnDaddy Share name Type Used as Comment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Printer Print HP DeskJet 722C Printer2 Print HP LaserJet 4V/4MV PostScript Printer5 Print Generic / Text Only temp Disk The command completed successfully. Target 192.168.1.102 "ping 192.168.1.102" Pinging 192.168.1.102 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 192.168.1.102: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.102: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.102: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.102: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Ping statistics for 192.168.1.102: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms "net view 192.168.1.102" Target youngman "ping youngman" Pinging Youngman [192.168.1.110] with 32 bytes of data: Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Ping statistics for 192.168.1.110: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss), "net view youngman" Target 192.168.1.110 "ping 192.168.1.110" Pinging 192.168.1.110 with 32 bytes of data: Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Ping statistics for 192.168.1.110: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss), "net view 192.168.1.110" Target 127.0.0.1 "ping 127.0.0.1" Pinging 127.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms "net view 127.0.0.1" Shared resources at 127.0.0.1 Share name Type Used as Comment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Printer Print HP DeskJet 722C Printer2 Print HP LaserJet 4V/4MV PostScript Printer5 Print Generic / Text Only temp Disk The command completed successfully. End diagnosis for JOHNDADDY Should I run this on YOUNGMAN (192.168.1.110) the HP? John Chuck, I don't see my last post. I ran the batch file after deleting the NETBEUI etc and the other things. But I hadn't rebooted the computer. I've also just turned off NETBEUI from the HP (youngman). Rebooted it, and will run the batch job on it. Here's the results from johndaddy (the eMachine) after the reboot: While the batch file ws running the following error was displayed in the DOS box twice: System error 53 Here are the contents of the cdiag.txt file: CDiagnosis V1.05 Start diagnosis for JOHNDADDY (Targets JohnDaddy 192.168.1.102 youngman 192.168.1.110) Target JohnDaddy "ping JohnDaddy" Pinging JohnDaddy [192.168.1.102] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 192.168.1.102: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.102: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.102: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.102: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Ping statistics for 192.168.1.102: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms "net view JohnDaddy" Shared resources at JohnDaddy Share name Type Used as Comment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Printer Print HP DeskJet 722C Printer2 Print HP LaserJet 4V/4MV PostScript Printer5 Print Generic / Text Only temp Disk The command completed successfully. Target 192.168.1.102 "ping 192.168.1.102" Pinging 192.168.1.102 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 192.168.1.102: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.102: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.102: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.102: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Ping statistics for 192.168.1.102: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms "net view 192.168.1.102" Shared resources at 192.168.1.102 Share name Type Used as Comment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Printer Print HP DeskJet 722C Printer2 Print HP LaserJet 4V/4MV PostScript Printer5 Print Generic / Text Only temp Disk The command completed successfully. Target youngman "ping youngman" Pinging Youngman [192.168.1.110] with 32 bytes of data: Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Ping statistics for 192.168.1.110: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss), "net view youngman" Target 192.168.1.110 "ping 192.168.1.110" Pinging 192.168.1.110 with 32 bytes of data: Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Ping statistics for 192.168.1.110: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss), "net view 192.168.1.110" Target 127.0.0.1 "ping 127.0.0.1" Pinging 127.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms "net view 127.0.0.1" Shared resources at 127.0.0.1 Share name Type Used as Comment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Printer Print HP DeskJet 722C Printer2 Print HP LaserJet 4V/4MV PostScript Printer5 Print Generic / Text Only temp Disk The command completed successfully. End diagnosis for JOHNDADDY ******* Should I send you the results of this batch file from "YOUNGMAN"? John >Chuck, > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Here are the contents of the cdiag.txt file: <SNIP CDiag for JohnDaddy> >******* > >Should I send you the results of this batch file from "YOUNGMAN"? John, Please. CDiag is most useful with all cases enumerated. Error 53 is "name not found". Since your Node Types are OK, you probably still have a firewall problem. Let's see what "browstat status" shows with your protocols cleaned up too. SignatureCheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck sonic net. > >Should I send you the results of this batch file from "YOUNGMAN"? > Please. CDiag is most useful with all cases enumerated. > Let's see what "browstat status" shows with your protocols cleaned up too. Chuck, OK. I'll go run that and send it to you both pieces of info. Should I change the order of the 2 computer names (youngman and johndaddy) on the 2nd computer or does it make any difference? John >> >Should I send you the results of this batch file from "YOUNGMAN"? > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >John John, Just run CDiag, as presented above by me, on both computers. It's written to be complete as coded, and the more computers you run it on, the more diagnostics we have to work from. SignatureCheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck sonic net. Chuck, Here's another dump from YOUNGMAN. I changed the set line back to the way you had it originally. --------------------------------- X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.15 (webedge20-101-1103-20040528) From: <jblair1948@cox.net> To: <jblair1948@cox.net> Subject: cdiag data Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 18:45:28 -0500 CDiagnosis V1.05 Start diagnosis for YOUNGMAN (Targets JohnDaddy 192.168.1.102 youngman 192.168.1.110) Target JohnDaddy "ping JohnDaddy" Ping request could not find host JohnDaddy. Please check the name and try again. "net view JohnDaddy" Target 192.168.1.102 "ping 192.168.1.102" Pinging 192.168.1.102 with 32 bytes of data: Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Ping statistics for 192.168.1.102: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss), "net view 192.168.1.102" Target youngman "ping youngman" Pinging youngman [192.168.1.101] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 192.168.1.101: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.101: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.101: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.101: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Ping statistics for 192.168.1.101: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms "net view youngman" Shared resources at youngman scotts room Share name Type Used as Comment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My eBooks Disk SharedDocs Disk temp Disk The command completed successfully. Target 192.168.1.110 "ping 192.168.1.110" Pinging 192.168.1.110 with 32 bytes of data: Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Ping statistics for 192.168.1.110: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss), "net view 192.168.1.110" Target 127.0.0.1 "ping 127.0.0.1" Pinging 127.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms "net view 127.0.0.1" Shared resources at 127.0.0.1 scotts room Share name Type Used as Comment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My eBooks Disk SharedDocs Disk temp Disk The command completed successfully. End diagnosis for YOUNGMAN ++++++++++++++++++++++ John Chuck, Just a reminder, in case you've forgotten what was in the original post, I have a linksys wireless router which YOUNGMAN is directly connected to, and JOHNDADDY (the eMachine) is connected to the router by a linksys wireless USB adapter. Here you go!! ++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chuck, This one was run on YOUNGMAN. NOTE I turned the values around on the 1st line: set FullTargets=youngman 192.168.1.110 JohnDaddy 192.168.1.102 ------------------ CDiagnosis V1.05 Start diagnosis for YOUNGMAN (Targets youngman 192.168.1.110 JohnDaddy 192.168.1.102) Target youngman "ping youngman" Pinging youngman [192.168.1.101] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 192.168.1.101: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.101: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.101: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.101: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Ping statistics for 192.168.1.101: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms "net view youngman" Shared resources at youngman scotts room Share name Type Used as Comment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My eBooks Disk SharedDocs Disk temp Disk The command completed successfully. Target 192.168.1.110 "ping 192.168.1.110" Pinging 192.168.1.110 with 32 bytes of data: Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Ping statistics for 192.168.1.110: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss), "net view 192.168.1.110" Target JohnDaddy "ping JohnDaddy" Ping request could not find host JohnDaddy. Please check the name and try again. "net view JohnDaddy" Target 192.168.1.102 "ping 192.168.1.102" Pinging 192.168.1.102 with 32 bytes of data: Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Ping statistics for 192.168.1.102: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss), "net view 192.168.1.102" Target 127.0.0.1 "ping 127.0.0.1" Pinging 127.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms "net view 127.0.0.1" Shared resources at 127.0.0.1 scotts room Share name Type Used as Comment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My eBooks Disk SharedDocs Disk temp Disk The command completed successfully. End diagnosis for YOUNGMAN ***************************************************************** Here are the results of "browstat status" from YOUNGMAN. Status for domain WONDERFUL on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C7E941F9-DAA6-424F-97EF-309867E08AFA} Browsing is NOT active on domain. Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. ***************************************************************** ***************************************************************** Here's the results of the "Browstat status" from JOHNDADDY - the eMachine (102) that has the browser running on it. ------------------ Status for domain WONDERFUL on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{494F8806-2BA7-4CE3-848E-41D3B11C12FC} Browsing is active on domain. Master browser name is: JOHNDADDY Master browser is running build 2600 1 backup servers retrieved from master JOHNDADDY \\JOHNDADDY There are 1 servers in domain WONDERFUL on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{494F8806-2BA7-4CE3-848E-41D3B11C12FC} There are 2 domains in domain WONDERFUL on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{494F8806-2BA7-4CE3-848E-41D3B11C12FC} ------------------ Now here's a new dump of cdiag.txt data from JOHNDADDY. CDiagnosis V1.05 Start diagnosis for JOHNDADDY (Targets JohnDaddy 192.168.1.102 youngman 192.168.1.110) Target JohnDaddy "ping JohnDaddy" Pinging JohnDaddy [192.168.1.102] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 192.168.1.102: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.102: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.102: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.102: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Ping statistics for 192.168.1.102: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms "net view JohnDaddy" Shared resources at JohnDaddy Share name Type Used as Comment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Printer Print HP DeskJet 722C Printer2 Print HP LaserJet 4V/4MV PostScript Printer5 Print Generic / Text Only temp Disk The command completed successfully. Target 192.168.1.102 "ping 192.168.1.102" Pinging 192.168.1.102 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 192.168.1.102: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.102: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.102: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.1.102: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Ping statistics for 192.168.1.102: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms "net view 192.168.1.102" Shared resources at 192.168.1.102 Share name Type Used as Comment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Printer Print HP DeskJet 722C Printer2 Print HP LaserJet 4V/4MV PostScript Printer5 Print Generic / Text Only temp Disk The command completed successfully. Target youngman "ping youngman" Pinging Youngman [192.168.1.110] with 32 bytes of data: Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Ping statistics for 192.168.1.110: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss), "net view youngman" Target 192.168.1.110 "ping 192.168.1.110" Pinging 192.168.1.110 with 32 bytes of data: Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Ping statistics for 192.168.1.110: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss), "net view 192.168.1.110" Target 127.0.0.1 "ping 127.0.0.1" Pinging 127.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms "net view 127.0.0.1" Shared resources at 127.0.0.1 Share name Type Used as Comment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Printer Print HP DeskJet 722C Printer2 Print HP LaserJet 4V/4MV PostScript Printer5 Print Generic / Text Only temp Disk The command completed successfully. End diagnosis for JOHNDADDY ******************************************* ****************************************** John Chuck, I want to thank you soooooo much for your help today. Sorry to have trashed you entire day. Don't know where you're located, but I' in VA and it's going on 8pm. It's about time for me to wrap things up for the evening and think about getting ready for bed. 5AM comes pertty early. :) If you come up with anymore ideas, please post them, I'll take a look tomorrow when I get home from work, about 4:30 EST. And I'll post back any results. Again, thank you so very much. I've been fighting this problem for months and didn't know where to go next. Look forward to hearing any more ideas from you. John >Chuck, > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >John Hi John, I'm in California. I'm not sure what's going on here. Your original IPConfigs had Youngman with address 192.168.1.101, yet JohnDaddy is resolving it at 192.168.1.110. When did it change address? I think you have either a physical connectivity issue, or a firewall problem. Since Youngman connects to the router by cable, try another router port, and another network cable (preferably a known good one). Is ZoneAlarm the only firewall involved (ever?)? Did you follow all procedures listed by ZoneLabs in the document? Try rerunning CDiag, with TWO additional targets, from both computers. ##### @echo off set FullTargets=JohnDaddy 192.168.1.102 youngman 192.168.1.101 192.168.1.110 set PingTargets=127.0.0.1 192.168.1.1 Set Version=V1.05 @echo CDiagnosis %Version% >c:\cdiag.txt @echo Start diagnosis for %computername% (Targets %FullTargets%) >>c:\cdiag.txt for %%a in (%FullTargets% %PingTargets%) do ( @echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt @echo Target %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt @echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt @echo "ping %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt @echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt ping %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt @echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt @echo "net view %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt @echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt net view %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt ) @echo End diagnosis for %computername% >>c:\cdiag.txt notepad c:\cdiag.txt :EOF ##### SignatureCheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck sonic net. Chuck, HURRRRRRAAAAAYYYY!!!!!!! I got it working!!!!!! I noticed that when I tried to ping YOUNGMAN from JOHNDADDY it resolved to 192.168.1.110. I went to YOUNGMAN and checked his IP address /w ipconfig /all it showed an IP of .101 I had tried static IPs and put them in the HOSTS files. Then I took them out. Or so I thought. I'd left YOUNGMAN in the HOSTS file on JOHNDADDY with the IP of .110. I commented out the IP for YOUNGMAN in the HOSTS file, rebooted, and everything was beautiful!!!!! THANKS A MILLION!!!!! I OWE you big time!!!! If you ever get out this way, be sure to look me up and I'll buy you several beers - maybe even a stake dinner!!!!! John John T. Blair WA4OHZ email: jblair1948@cox.net Va. Beach, Va (eBay id: zebra48-1) Phone: (757) 495-8229 48 TR1800 48 #4 Midget 65 Morgan 4/4 Series V (B1109) 75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887) 77 Spitfire 71 Saab Sonett III 65 Rambler Classic Morgan: www.team.net/www/morgan Bricklin: www.bricklin.org >Chuck, > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >Va. Beach, Va (eBay id: zebra48-1) >Phone: (757) 495-8229 John, Alright! A Hosts file redirect - never thought of that one. I have family in Virginia - mostly Richmond, so I travel there occasionally. Maybe I'll see you sometime. SignatureCheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck sonic net. > Alright! A Hosts file redirect - never thought of that one. > > I have family in Virginia - mostly Richmond, so I travel there occasionally. > Maybe I'll see you sometime. Chuck, We're only abou 1 1/2 hr south of Richmond. Right off of 64. So if you come east during the summer and head down to the VA Beach beach, we're only about 5 min. off the interstate. I'd love to shake you hand. I know it wasn't as simple as me just removing the item from the HOSTS file. I've been playing with this for several months and had a couple of friends over to play with it. It wasn't until about 2 weeks or so ago that I tried the static IP because I wanted to put up an FTP server. I buddy said that I couldn't do that if I was using DHCP. So I set the static IPs. Maybe it was removing the ZoneAlarms instead of just turning them off. But it was something you told me to do. So thank again!!!!! John |
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