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Windows Forum / Windows XP / Networking and Web / February 2005Windows XP onto win98SE network makes half the 98's disappear
Hi, I installed 3 new Windows XP home edition PC's for a client who had a network of 19 Windows 98 SE Pc's all doing File and Print sharing and internet sharing. The minute I plug one of the XP's into the network, and the 98's refresh thier network view, all they see is ten other Pc's (any random combo of ten on the network) and themselves. Is there a reason for this? It seams like XP is taking over the browser master function and setting a limit of 10 pc's on it. Could this be true? any suggestions on how to integrate the XP's into the 98 network and getting all pc's still visible?  SignatureMCSE 2000 >Hi, >I installed 3 new Windows XP home edition PC's for a client who had a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >any suggestions on how to integrate the XP's into the 98 network and getting >all pc's still visible? Robert, The browsers for WinXP (WinNT/2K/XP) and Win98 (Win95/98/ME) don't work well together on the same LAN. Make sure the browser service is running only on the Win98 computers. On the WinXP computers, Control Panel - Administrative Tools - Services, Stop then Disable the browser service. Then wait an hour or so (nominally 48 minutes) for full results. The Microsoft Browstat program will show us what browsers (I'm not talking about Internet Explorer here) you have in your domain / workgroup, at any time. http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305 You can download Browstat from either: <http://www.dynawell.com/reskit/microsoft/win2000/browstat.zip> <http://rescomp.stanford.edu/staff/manual/rcc/tools/browstat.zip> Browstat is very small (40K), and needs no install. Just unzip the downloaded file, copy browstat.exe to any folder in the Path, and run it from a command window, by "browstat status". Make sure all XP computers list the same master browser. For more information about the browser subsystem (very intricate), see: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188001 http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305 http://support.microsoft.com/?id=231312 <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/deploy/prodspecs/ntbrowse.mspx> <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/win95/w95brows.mspx> SignatureCheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck sonic net. Chuck, I just want to be sure: If I stop the browser service, will the XP machines still be able to browse the network assuming one of the 98's has taken the role of Master Browser? Or will the XP's lose all ability to see and use the network? > >Hi, > >I installed 3 new Windows XP home edition PC's for a client who had a [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/deploy/prodspecs/ntbrowse.mspx> > <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/win95/w95brows.mspx> >Chuck, >I just want to be sure: >If I stop the browser service, will the XP machines still be able to browse >the network assuming one of the 98's has taken the role of Master Browser? >Or will the XP's lose all ability to see and use the network? Robert, Assuming that there are no other network problems, the current Win98 browsers should be able to handle the workload (up til you introduced the 3 WinXP computers, Network Neighborhood was correctly showing all computers, right?), including the 3 new WinXP computers. Your problem is that you have Win98 and WinXP computers on the LAN, and computers in both groups are trying to provide browser service. Unfortunately, the two don't work well together, so you need to disable one or the other. <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/deploy/prodspecs/ntbrowse.mspx> <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/win95/w95brows.mspx> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=246489 My suspicion is that you can stop the browser service on 3 WinXP computers a lot easier than identifying and stopping the browse master on up to 19 Win98 computers. Microsoft provided the browstat tool so you can analyse your current LAN browser structure - unfortunately, browstat only runs on WinNT/2K/XP. http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305 What's the current situation - what can each WinXP computer see in Network Neighborhood? Does this correspond in any way with the Network Neighborhood display on the various Win98 computers? SignatureCheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck sonic net. Hi Chuck. I have been following this posting and trying some of the suggestions. Since you are obviously expert, please will you look at the item I raised in this group on 27/2/05 at 15.28. ATK >> Chuck, >> I just want to be sure: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Unfortunately, the two don't work well together, so you need to > disable one or the other. <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/deploy/prodspecs/ntbro wse.mspx> > <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/win95/w95brows.mspx> > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=246489 [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Network Neighborhood? Does this correspond in any way with the > Network Neighborhood display on the various Win98 computers? >> Hi, >> I installed 3 new Windows XP home edition PC's for a client who had a [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305 > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=231312 <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/deploy/prodspecs/ntbro wse.mspx> > <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/win95/w95brows.mspx> Sorry for intervening, but I am having major trouble. I have the browstat.exe file but cannot get it to run under W98 or XP because of missing file. Can you help please. >>> Hi, >>> I installed 3 new Windows XP home edition PC's for a client who had a [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] >browstat.exe file but cannot get it to run under W98 or XP because of >missing file. Can you help please. Browstat should run fine under Windows NT/2K/XP. It won't run under Windows 9x/ME. http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305 Need more help? Please start a new thread, with descriptive title - this will benefit both you, the OP, and the helpers here. How to Compose a Good Newsgroup Post http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm How to Act Smart on Usenet http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Getting Your Post Noticed - and Answered http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar27pmvp.asp SignatureCheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck sonic net. |
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