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Duston - 27 May 2006 06:12 GMT
I am trying to Connect two HP desktop PC's both running XP Home with a
parallel cable.  I have tried running Create New Connection so that I can
share the web between the two, but I have had no luck in accomplishing this
task.  Please if someone could assist me that would be great!
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Steve Winograd [MVP] - 27 May 2006 06:41 GMT
>I am trying to Connect two HP desktop PC's both running XP Home with a
>parallel cable.  I have tried running Create New Connection so that I can
>share the web between the two, but I have had no luck in accomplishing this
>task.  Please if someone could assist me that would be great!

I'm sorry, but it isn't possible to share the web using a parallel
cable.  XP's Internet Connection Sharing capability can use Ethernet
or IEEE 1394 (FireWire), but not parallel.

The simplest solution is to connect the computers using a crossover
Ethernet cable.  Note that it has to be a crossover cable -- a regular
Ethernet cable won't work for a computer-to-computer connection.
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Duston - 27 May 2006 07:10 GMT
I use my ethernet for the web.  I have DSL.  What exactly or how does the
1394 work?  Is there any other possible ways?
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> >I am trying to Connect two HP desktop PC's both running XP Home with a
> >parallel cable.  I have tried running Create New Connection so that I can
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> Ethernet cable.  Note that it has to be a crossover cable -- a regular
> Ethernet cable won't work for a computer-to-computer connection.
Steve Winograd [MVP] - 27 May 2006 09:15 GMT
>> >I am trying to Connect two HP desktop PC's both running XP Home with a
>> >parallel cable.  I have tried running Create New Connection so that I can
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>I use my ethernet for the web.  I have DSL.  What exactly or how does the
>1394 work?  Is there any other possible ways?

Since your DSL modem connects by Ethernet, the best solution is
probably to use a broadband router to share it with both computers.
Connect the DSL modem to the router's WAN (Internet) port, and connect
both  computers to the router's LAN ports.  Use regular (not
crossover) Ethernet cables for all connections.

Another possibility is to install a second Ethernet adapter in one of
the computers and connect it to the other computer using a crossover
Ethernet cable.  Enable Internet Connection Sharing on the Ethernet
adapter that connects to the DSL modem.

IEEE 1394 networking uses a computer's built-in IEEE 1394 (FireWire)
port.  Not all computers have such a port.
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Duston - 27 May 2006 18:58 GMT
Okay I have bought and installed a new Wired Ethernet fast networking card.  
It is working just fine, but now I need to know the steps for connecting both
computers so they can share internet, files, printer, and scanner. I have
already connected the ethernet cable from the new ethernet card in the host
computer to the ethernet card in the guest computer, but don't know where to
go from there.
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> >> >I am trying to Connect two HP desktop PC's both running XP Home with a
> >> >parallel cable.  I have tried running Create New Connection so that I can
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> IEEE 1394 networking uses a computer's built-in IEEE 1394 (FireWire)
> port.  Not all computers have such a port.
AJR - 27 May 2006 20:36 GMT
Please note Steve's comment about using a "crossover" cable - a standard or
regular cable will not work - as an aside - if you tied a standard parallel
cable previously - will not work , a "special Direct Parallel Cable is
required.
Research "ICS sharing" via the Help and Support XP function for info on
setting up ICS sharing.

> Okay I have bought and installed a new Wired Ethernet fast networking
> card.
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
>> IEEE 1394 networking uses a computer's built-in IEEE 1394 (FireWire)
>> port.  Not all computers have such a port.
Steve Winograd [MVP] - 27 May 2006 22:18 GMT
>Okay I have bought and installed a new Wired Ethernet fast networking card.  
>It is working just fine, but now I need to know the steps for connecting both
>computers so they can share internet, files, printer, and scanner. I have
>already connected the ethernet cable from the new ethernet card in the host
>computer to the ethernet card in the guest computer, but don't know where to
>go from there.

I've written a web page with full details:

Windows XP Internet Connection Sharing
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics
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Elijah - 30 May 2006 22:20 GMT
You should use an ethernet cable to connect the two computers.  It's faster
and easier, plus I am not shure that you can use parrallel cables to share an
internet connection.  
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> I am trying to Connect two HP desktop PC's both running XP Home with a
> parallel cable.  I have tried running Create New Connection so that I can
> share the web between the two, but I have had no luck in accomplishing this
> task.  Please if someone could assist me that would be great!
Ribs - 30 May 2006 23:50 GMT
>You should use an ethernet cable to connect the two computers.  It's faster
>and easier, plus I am not shure that you can use parrallel cables to share an
>internet connection.  

Years ago, I had several standard RJ-45 cables laying around, but
needed a crossover cable.  The local CompUSA sold 'em for about
$15-$25, a rip-off for sure!

This is how I have made my own crossover cables for years:

Open the cable away from the plugs, far enough to give you room to cut
and splice.

There are four solid colors, as well as same colors mixed with white:

solid green, solid orange, solid brown, solid blue, blue/white, green
white, orange/white, brown white.

To make a crossover, simply switch the wires with green on one end to
their orange counterpart on the other end. Don't change the blue or
brown wires. Be sure all splices are with plenty of wire to make good
connections, and the open wires have bben wrapped in tape well.

That is, cut and splice ONLY:

solid green to solid orange,
green/white to orange/white,
solid orange to solid green,
orange/white to green/white.

Now you can connect both PCs together using any standard plain-vanilla
10/100bT or 10/100/1000bT  ethernet cards.  
Chuck - 31 May 2006 00:47 GMT
>>You should use an ethernet cable to connect the two computers.  It's faster
>>and easier, plus I am not shure that you can use parrallel cables to share an
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>Now you can connect both PCs together using any standard plain-vanilla
>10/100bT or 10/100/1000bT  ethernet cards.  

That was easy enough to do when 10M Ethernet was normal.  With 100M, and 1000M
(1G) Ethernet, the signal is very sensitive.  Splicing an Ethernet cable,
without causing crosstalk or signal loss between the cables, is a very hit and
miss possibility.

If you're not an experienced Network Tech, buy the cable.  You can even get
crossover adapters for $5 at some electronics stores.  I have one - it's a big
fat Ethernet plug, with a crossover circuit inside.  Plug it onto the end of any
standard Ethernet cable.

Don't waste time splicing a cable.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/making-your-own-ethernet-cables-is-not.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/making-your-own-ethernet-cables-is-not.html

How much is your time worth?  Mine is way more than $15.

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