Win XP Pro on Apple iMac Intel Dual Core

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sylvester_k - 26 Sep 2006 17:49 GMT

Hi all,
Do any one have experience installing Win XP pro and also
Shared Computer Toolkit on iMac Intel Dual Core ?
Wil there be any potential problem ?
This is because I will want this iMac to link up
with and Intel PC via wireless network.
Can anyone provide the web link for this info ?

Thanks in advance.

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John John - 26 Sep 2006 18:43 GMT

Someone in another group posted this link to a short video clip (30
seconds) that shows how you can expect it to work.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RwHMIxdDdu8

John

> Hi all,
> Do any one have experience installing Win XP pro and also
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>
> Thanks in advance.

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Robert Moir - 26 Sep 2006 19:54 GMT

> Hi all,
> Do any one have experience installing Win XP pro and also
> Shared Computer Toolkit on iMac Intel Dual Core ?
> Wil there be any potential problem ?
> This is because I will want this iMac to link up
> with and Intel PC via wireless network.

Presumably you're talking about dual booting with BootCamp? In this
scenario, when running Windows, you're running it on a PC as far as the OS
and the apps on top of it are concerned.

> Can anyone provide the web link for this info ?

Not sure what you're after here. If you're after some kind of guarantee from
Apple that this will work perfectly, you won't get one because they don't
support Windows and BootCamp is 'beta' software.

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sylvester_k - 27 Sep 2006 03:48 GMT

Hi,

Thanks for the info,
How about the Virtual PC software for iMac ?
Is this Virtual PC software from microsoft ?

I need to run some specific software programs
(only for XP OS not iMac OS), but need the make use
of the iMac look to achieve a visual impact
for my shop. So basically i only need the iMac
design but not cannot use the iMac OS because
my software is running on XP OS.
I also need to run Window media player.

Any suggestion ?

Thanks

> > Hi all,
> > Do any one have experience installing Win XP pro and also
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> Apple that this will work perfectly, you won't get one because they don't
> support Windows and BootCamp is 'beta' software.

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sylvester_k - 27 Sep 2006 03:54 GMT

Sorry to add on following my below issue

1. This iMac need to link up to another PC (standard intel base)
for my software to synchronise some data via wireless.

2. The Share Computer Toolkit installation on iMac
is actually intended to set some security
setting to prevent my employee from using the iMac
to surf internet or install other programs etc.

Thanks

> Hi,
>
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> > Apple that this will work perfectly, you won't get one because they don't
> > support Windows and BootCamp is 'beta' software.

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GreenieLeBrun - 27 Sep 2006 05:44 GMT

> Hi,
>
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> > Microsoft MVP
> > www.robertmoir.com

Virtual PC is a Microsoft program and it will run XP on a G5 Mac (I
don't have a core dou machine but I assume it will run on them). Anoter
virtual machine package that I have seen in action is Parallels
(http://www.parallels.com/) this runs XP very quicly on the Intel
core-duo macs.

You may like to consider Boot Camp from Apple, this is not a virtual
machine but a true dual boot set up so you get either XP or OSX. This
is probably what you are after.

If you do not want your employee to be able to "surf the net" from OSX
set it up with one user and password protect it (you may also like to
password protect the root account of OSX), set the machine to boot to
XP and apply what ever security levels you require.

You will, of course, require a retail copy of XPSP2.

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sylvester_k - 27 Sep 2006 18:11 GMT

Hi,
thanks for for your info.
Do you actually require the Retail XP pro ?
How about the OEM XP pro? is it OK ?
OEM XP pro is cheaper over here.

> > Hi,
> >
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>
> You will, of course, require a retail copy of XPSP2.

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GreenieLeBrun - 27 Sep 2006 23:31 GMT

> Hi,
> thanks for for your info.
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> >
> > You will, of course, require a retail copy of XPSP2.

OEM XP Pro should work OK, I specified the retail version because I
have no idea as to what the legality of using an OEM version on a Mac
would be, I would assume that if you bought an OEM version from the Mac
dealer when you bought the core-duo you would be OK.

One thing it MUST be Service Pack 2 and you will need to do the
security updates. You may like to look at RyanVM's Windows XP Post-SP2
Update Pack (http://www.ryanvm.net/msfn/updatepack.html) this will let
you slipstream a number of the updates to your copy of XP thus cutting
down the time needed for installing the patches that MS have released.

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sylvester_k - 28 Sep 2006 15:08 GMT

> > Hi,
> > thanks for for your info.
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> you slipstream a number of the updates to your copy of XP thus cutting
> down the time needed for installing the patches that MS have released.

Hi Thanks for the reply,
What i meant was,
iMac do not supply OEM for XP.
I need to buy the OEM XP CD from another place/dealer
and install it in my iMac. Is this OK ?

Now i begin to wonder, where did the dealer got this OEM XP from
and for which PC brand ?

Thanks

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GreenieLeBrun - 28 Sep 2006 23:55 GMT

> > > Hi,
> > > thanks for for your info.
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>
> Thanks

Some OEM CDs (eg Dell, HP etc) are often BIOS locked i.e. they will
only work with the specific model of computer they were packaged with.
Other OEM CDs do not have this restriction and are usually only sold
with a complete system.

The conditions of sale of OEM CDs vary from place to place and the
interpretaion of the conditions of sale vary from supplier to supplier
but generally the software can only be sold with a piece of
"quallifying" hardware and the licence cannot be transferd to another
computer. With a retail version there are no such restrictions and the
software can be moved to another computer.

As to weather it is OK to put an OEM version on your iMac will, i
guess, depend entirely on what restrictions/conditions are imposed on
you by the seller of that CD.

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Robert Moir - 27 Sep 2006 09:50 GMT

> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the info,
> How about the Virtual PC software for iMac ?
> Is this Virtual PC software from microsoft ?

Virtual PC for the Mac doesn't run on Intel Macs. You'd want something like
parallels or (coming soon I believe) VMware. But virtualisation software
won't give you the experience you talk about below.

> I need to run some specific software programs
> (only for XP OS not iMac OS), but need the make use
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>
> Any suggestion ?

I would say you want bootcamp. Just be aware that you're stepping into
territory where support might be an issue. That doesn't mean that you will
have problems, I know plenty of places who have done what you're talking
about just fine. It does mean that were you to run into problems your
support options might be limited.

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