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Allen - 28 Apr 2008 21:22 GMT
I would like to change my operating system from Windows 200 Pro to Windows
XP.  I plan on a full install and not an upgrade (probably because there
isn't one), anyway I've been shopping around and there are so many XP
operating system packages.  Which one do I buy?  Final question is; How do I
save everything else on the computer when I make the switch?  I know how to
save files, but how do you save your favorite internet sites index, Microsoft
office, and other software programs?  Thanks for the help!
Ken Blake, MVP - 28 Apr 2008 22:28 GMT
> I would like to change my operating system from Windows 200 Pro to Windows
> XP.  I plan on a full install and not an upgrade (probably because there
> isn't one),

Not true. The upgrade from Windows 2000 to XP Professional *is* a
valid upgrade path, and the Upgrade version of XP works fine for this.

> anyway I've been shopping around and there are so many XP
> operating system packages.  Which one do I buy?

I have two answers for you:

1. Buy the Retail Upgrade package. There are only two other choices:
Full Retail package and OEM.

The Full Retail package costs significantly more, has no advantages
for you, since you qualify for the Upgrade. I think buying an OEM
version is a very poor choice.  An OEM copy comes with several
restrictions, the most severe of which is that its license ties it
permanently to the first computer it's installed on. It can never
legally be moved to another computer,
sold, or given away (except with the original computer).

Instead I recommend a Retail Upgrade copy, which in most cases can be
bought for very close to the same price. And contrary to what many
people think, an Upgrade copy *can* be used to do a clean
installation, as long as you have a copy of a previous qualifying
version of Windows to insert as proof of ownership when prompted to do
so.

However, note that, unlike with previous versions of Windows, an
upgrade to XP replaces almost everything, and usually works very well.

My recommendation is to at least try the upgrade, since it's much
easier than a clean installation. You can always change your mind and
reinstall cleanly if problems develop.

However, don't assume that doing an upgrade relieves you of the need
to backup your data, etc. before beginning. Before starting to
upgrade, it's always prudent to recognize that things like a sudden
power loss can occur in the middle of it and cause the loss of
everything. For that reason you should make sure you have backups and
anything else you need to reinstall if the worst happens.

2. Buy a copy of XP *Home* instead, since it is much less expensive,
and will very likely meet your needs.. XP Home and Professional are
identical except that Professional includes a few features (mostly
related to security and networking) missing from Home? Most home users
don't need and would never use these extra features and will see no
benefits by choosing Professional instead.

For details go to

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_home_pro.asp

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/whichxp.asp>

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/choosing2.asp

Also note another point, not included in any of the above:
Professional allows ten concurrent network connections, and Home only
five.

However, note that Windows 2000 to XP Home is *not* a valid upgrade
path and you would need to do a clean installation. However in this
case, I still recommend buying an Upgrade copy. If you don't have a
copy of a previous qualifying version of Windows 9X to insert as proof
of ownership when prompted to do so, you can buy a used copy
of Windows 98 very cheaply someplace like eBay.

> Final question is; How do I
> save everything else on the computer when I make the switch?  I know how to
> save files, but how do you save your favorite internet sites index, Microsoft
> office, and other software programs?  Thanks for the help!

If you do a clean installation, it is not possible to save programs.
All installed programs (except for an occasional very small one) have
files and pointers to them within Windows, in the registry and
elsewhere. So if you aren't running the Windows copy they were
installed under, the pointers and files aren't available and the
programs won't run. Programs have to be reinstalled from the original
media.

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LVTravel - 29 Apr 2008 00:01 GMT
In addition to Ken's advice, I would recommend that you run
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/upgrading/advisor.mspx to make sure
that you have the proper equipment to upgrade to XP as not all Win 2000
compliant systems will properly run XP.  This advisor will show what you
need before committing to an upgrade that won't work.

>I would like to change my operating system from Windows 200 Pro to Windows
> XP.  I plan on a full install and not an upgrade (probably because there
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> Microsoft
> office, and other software programs?  Thanks for the help!
Allen - 29 Apr 2008 01:14 GMT
Mr. Blake thank you for all of the good advice.  First off, I do have a
licensed copy of 2000 Pro, so that is not a problem.  LV's suggestion has
already ben accomplished and my system having been upgraded some time back is
proven more than capable of supporting XP.  My only question is which upgrade
is considered a retail upgrade?  When looking on the internet there are so
many different colored packages and descriptions of XP, but none actually say
to my recolection; XP Home Retail Edition?  How do I know which one to buy so
that I don't buy the wrong one?  The reason I ask is I have done this wrong
in the past and spent money on something I couldn't use or return!  Thank you!

> In addition to Ken's advice, I would recommend that you run
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/upgrading/advisor.mspx to make sure
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> > Microsoft
> > office, and other software programs?  Thanks for the help!
Ken Blake, MVP - 29 Apr 2008 01:31 GMT
> Mr. Blake thank you for all of the good advice.

You're welcome, but no formality is necessary. Just "Ken" is fine.

> First off, I do have a
> licensed copy of 2000 Pro, so that is not a problem.  LV's suggestion has
> already ben accomplished and my system having been upgraded some time back is
> proven more than capable of supporting XP.  My only question is which upgrade
> is considered a retail upgrade?

That's very easy. *All* Upgrade versions are retail. OEM versions are
always Full (clean installation only).

However, I think you may have missed an important point in my message.
Your Windows 2000 Professional provides a valid upgrade path to
Windows  XP *Professional*, but not to XP Home. To go to XP Home, you
need to upgrade from a home version of Windows--98, 98SE, or Me (or
even 95, but with 95, you can only do a clean installation of XP, not
an upgrade over the top).

> When looking on the internet there are so
> many different colored packages and descriptions of XP, but none actually say
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> > > Microsoft
> > > office, and other software programs?  Thanks for the help!

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JS - 29 Apr 2008 01:26 GMT
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition UPGRADE with SP2
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-Home-UPGRADE-SP2/dp/B0002423YK

JS

>I would like to change my operating system from Windows 200 Pro to Windows
> XP.  I plan on a full install and not an upgrade (probably because there
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Microsoft
> office, and other software programs?  Thanks for the help!
Allen - 29 Apr 2008 01:54 GMT
JS,

I read the info on the link and it says that XP Home SP2 Upgrade is only
good with Windows 98/98SE and Windows ME.  Windows 2000 Pro is not listed!

> Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition UPGRADE with SP2
> http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-Home-UPGRADE-SP2/dp/B0002423YK
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> > Microsoft
> > office, and other software programs?  Thanks for the help!
JS - 29 Apr 2008 02:41 GMT
Better link provided below for XP Pro upgrade!
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-Professional-UPGRADE-SP2/dp/B00022PTT8/r
ef=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1209433100&sr=1-6


Note: Seller is Amazon and not third party listed on Amazon!

JS

> JS,
>
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>> > Microsoft
>> > office, and other software programs?  Thanks for the help!
Ken Blake, MVP - 29 Apr 2008 03:37 GMT
> JS,
>
> I read the info on the link and it says that XP Home SP2 Upgrade is only
> good with Windows 98/98SE and Windows ME.  Windows 2000 Pro is not listed!

That's correct. Please reread both my earlier messages.



> > Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition UPGRADE with SP2
> > http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-Home-UPGRADE-SP2/dp/B0002423YK
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> > > Microsoft
> > > office, and other software programs?  Thanks for the help!

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Patrick Keenan - 02 May 2008 03:34 GMT
> JS,
>
> I read the info on the link and it says that XP Home SP2 Upgrade is only
> good with Windows 98/98SE and Windows ME.  Windows 2000 Pro is not listed!

That's because that is a downgrade.  For example, XP Home can't connect to
domains, and 2000 can.

Anytime there is a removal of significant features, it isn't an upgrade.

HTH
-pk

>> Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition UPGRADE with SP2
>> http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-Home-UPGRADE-SP2/dp/B0002423YK
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>> > Microsoft
>> > office, and other software programs?  Thanks for the help!
Allen - 29 Apr 2008 02:05 GMT
Excellent!!  Thank you JS!!!

> Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition UPGRADE with SP2
> http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-Home-UPGRADE-SP2/dp/B0002423YK
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> > Microsoft
> > office, and other software programs?  Thanks for the help!
JS - 29 Apr 2008 02:50 GMT
Also see the Microsoft KB article titled:
"Windows XP supported upgrade paths"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/292607/en-us

JS

> Excellent!!  Thank you JS!!!
>
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>> > Microsoft
>> > office, and other software programs?  Thanks for the help!
Bruce Chambers - 29 Apr 2008 02:06 GMT
> I would like to change my operating system from Windows 200 Pro to Windows
> XP.  I plan on a full install and not an upgrade (probably because there
> isn't one),

    Of course there is.  Win2K Pro is a qualifying product for the upgrade
to WinXP Pro.

>.... anyway I've been shopping around and there are so many XP
> operating system packages.  Which one do I buy?

    The one that best meets *your* specific computing needs, about which
you've told us nothing.  (WinXP Media Center Edition, WinXP Tablet PC
Edition, and WinXP x64 Edition are all probably out because they each
have very specialized hardware requirements and are available only as
factory pre-installed systems.)

Five editions of Windows XP compared
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/evaluation/compare.mspx

>  Final question is; How do I
> save everything else on the computer when I make the switch?  I know how to
> save files, but how do you save your favorite internet sites index,

    Same way.  Assuming that you're using Internet Explorer, just save the
Favorites folder from your user profile.

> Microsoft
> office, and other software programs?  

    These will all have to be reinstalled from their respective original
installation media, unless you perform an in-place upgrade to WinXP Pro.

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Allen - 29 Apr 2008 02:33 GMT
Mr. Chambers,

So I was wrong!  There is an upgrade, but as in JS's answer, the software
operating system application that he has suggested is wrong.  That upgrade
does not qualify for 2000 Pro.  So my question was fairly straight forward
and I thought simple.  Your answer gets me nowhere...all I'm asking is which
XP Home operating sytem software will upgrade me from 2000 to XP Home?  There
are all kinds of them out there, but which one is the correct one?  For
instance, is it XP Home SP2 OEM, XP Home with SP28 one pack OEM, XP Home
upgrade with SP2, or a dozen others?  None of them seem to address upgrading
from 2000 Pro?  I have looked at Newegg, Amazon, and Tiger Direct and they
all have several different packages and I do not know which one is which.  
Since I am not well versed in this kind of thing, I was hoping a simple
answer would help me.  I now see that I must take a four year college course
in order to ask a simple question.  Thanks!

> > I would like to change my operating system from Windows 200 Pro to Windows
> > XP.  I plan on a full install and not an upgrade (probably because there
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>     These will all have to be reinstalled from their respective original
> installation media, unless you perform an in-place upgrade to WinXP Pro.
Ken Blake, MVP - 29 Apr 2008 03:39 GMT
> Mr. Chambers,
>
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> and I thought simple.  Your answer gets me nowhere...all I'm asking is which
> XP Home operating sytem software will upgrade me from 2000 to XP Home?

As I've said several times, there is no such upgrade. The only way to
get from 2000 to XP Home is by a clean installation.

> There
> are all kinds of them out there, but which one is the correct one?  For
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
> >     These will all have to be reinstalled from their respective original
> > installation media, unless you perform an in-place upgrade to WinXP Pro.

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Bruce Chambers - 01 May 2008 02:51 GMT
> Mr. Chambers,
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> and I thought simple.  Your answer gets me nowhere...all I'm asking is which
> XP Home operating sytem software will upgrade me from 2000 to XP Home?

    None!  Win2K can be upgraded only to WinXP Pro.

    If you want WinXP Home, you'll need to purchase the full (*not*
Upgrade) OEM oe retail license, format the hard drive, and install from
scratch.

> There
> are all kinds of them out there, but which one is the correct one?

    Not really.

>  For
> instance, is it XP Home SP2 OEM, XP Home with SP28 one pack OEM,

    ... These are essentially the same thing, labeled differently.

> ... XP Home
> upgrade with SP2....

   
    Again, there is *NO* upgrading from Win2K to WinXP Home.

>...., or a dozen others?  None of them seem to address upgrading
> from 2000 Pro?

    Because, once again, there is *NO* upgrading from Win2K to WinXP Home.

>  I have looked at Newegg, Amazon, and Tiger Direct and they
> all have several different packages and I do not know which one is which.  
> Since I am not well versed in this kind of thing, I was hoping a simple
> answer would help me.  I now see that I must take a four year college course
> in order to ask a simple question.  Thanks!

    If you want to _upgrade_ from Win2K to WinXP, you need to purchase
Upgrade version of WinXP Pro.  (Oh, an upgrade could be performed with a
retail full version, as well, but that's much more expensive.)

    If you want to _replace_ Win2K with WinXP Home, you can purchase either
the Full Retail license, or the cheaper OEM license.

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Ken Blake, MVP - 01 May 2008 17:08 GMT
> > Mr. Chambers,
> >
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> Upgrade) OEM oe retail license, format the hard drive, and install from
> scratch.

Or he can use an XP Home Upgrade to do a clean installation *if* he
also has (or buys) a copy of Windows 95, 98, 98SE, or Me). In most
cases, I think that's the best solution, even if he has to buy a used
copy of the older Windows (which is usually very inexpensive).

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Bruce Chambers - 03 May 2008 02:13 GMT
> Or he can use an XP Home Upgrade to do a clean installation *if* he
> also has (or buys) a copy of Windows 95, 98, 98SE, or Me). In most
> cases, I think that's the best solution, even if he has to buy a used
> copy of the older Windows (which is usually very inexpensive).

    You're correct, this more round-about method might save the OP a few
dollars.  It'd be more trouble than it's worth to me, but the OP might
think differently.

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Patrick Keenan - 02 May 2008 03:32 GMT
>I would like to change my operating system from Windows 200 Pro to Windows
> XP.  I plan on a full install and not an upgrade (probably because there
> isn't one),

Yes, there is, this would be the XP Pro Upgrade version.

Windows 2000 to XP Home is considered a downgrade, as it loses key
networking features, so that's not available.

>  anyway I've been shopping around and there are so many XP
> operating system packages.  Which one do I buy?

Do you need to log onto a domain, run IIS, or use encryption?   If not, XP
Home is cheaper.

>  Final question is; How do I
> save everything else on the computer when I make the switch?  I know how
> to
> save files, but how do you save your favorite internet sites index,
> Microsoft
> office, and other software programs?  Thanks for the help!

Consider that if your system is Windows 2000, the hard disk is perhaps five
years old.   Instead of saving files, remove the hard disk, put in a new
one, install XP and update it; install your apps.   *Then* reattach the old
drive and copy the files over.   It's very easy to do, very fast and
reliable.   When you get the new hard disk, also get a USB2 card and

As to your old apps like Office, either you will use an XP Pro Upgrade or
you will reinstall them.  Copying the program files over will *not* work.

Having said all that - consider your options.   Is your system capable of
running XP?  Plus, it's not difficult to find a 3-gHz Pentium 4 with 512 meg
memory and with a legal XP Pro license for around CDN$250.    A new XP Home
license is around $140.

HTH
-pk
 
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