> I am trying to reformat my hard drive but cannot find my CD-ROM for
> Windows XP-pro. I do not want to go any further until I have the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> they could not help me. How do I get a hold of these people for a new
> disc?
What is the make and model of your PC? Did you once have an XP disc and
have since lost it? Or are you not too sure (not everyone gets these
discs to begin with)? If you *did* once have an XP disc and if it was a
branded OEM disc, then Microsoft won't be able to help you. More
details, please.
Why do you want to perform a clean install, anyway? Chances are that
it's not necessary. If you post your specific issue(s) here, I'm certain
someone can help you.
>I am trying to reformat my hard drive but cannot find my CD-ROM for Windows
> XP-pro. I do not want to go any further until I have the program disc? Does
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> replied that they could not help me. How do I get a hold of these people for
> a new disc?
How you proceed depends on how you obtained the copy of XP that is installed on
your computer. There's an OEM version and a Retail version of XP Pro.
If there's a sticker on the side of your computer with the 25 character CD key
then you own an OEM version and will need to contact the computer manufacturer.
Keep in mind that many manufacturers place the files needed to reinstall XP on a
hidden partition on your hard drive. You might want to consult the manual for
your system and see if it describes a procedure for reinstalling the operating
system.
If your version of XP Pro was purchased at a retail outlet it would have come
packaged in a blue box. Inside the box there is a blue folder which contains the
CD and an orange sticker with the CD key. Microsoft will replace the CD for this
version under certain conditions. Take a look at this web site for more info;
How to replace Microsoft software or hardware, order service packs and product
upgrades, or replace product manuals
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;326246
Good luck
Nepatsfan
> I am trying to reformat my hard drive but cannot find my CD-ROM for Windows
> XP-pro.
Did you buy your own CD, or did the computer come with Windows XP
pre-installed?
If the latter, are you sure you ever had a CD? Many (probably most)
OEM machines do not come with CDs these days, and instead give you a
recovery partition to reinstall from (a terrible idea, in my view).
> I do not want to go any further until I have the program disc? Does
> anyone know how to get intouch with the microsoft company to see if I can get
> a copy of the disc so that I do not have to re-purchase all the software? I
> have heard it can be done but cannot find their contact information on the
> main website.
If your copy of Windows is an OEM version (computers that come with
Windows pre-installed have OEM versions, but also some people buy and
install OEM versions themselves), Microsoft will not help you. You
need to contact the OEM to find out how to reinstall, or to buy a CD
from them.
But if it's a retail CD, contact Microsoft. You may be able to get a
replacement CD at a nominal cost. Look here:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326246/en-us

Signature
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
My computer is a custom built computer. I bought all the hard ware and
software individually and had it custom built so no it did not "come" with it
on it. My computer was built from scratch to begin with. I once had the disc
but cannot find it somehow it must have gotten lost in one of my many moves
over the last several years.
My computer has been getting viruses despite my firewall, antispyware and
antivirusware. It is slow it keeps freezing up and I'm constantly having to
reboot my computer. I have tried many things already but still cannot get my
computer totally cleaned so now I am ready to reformat my hard drive and
start with a clean slate, I just can't do it without having all of my
software discs especially my Windows XP Pro disc and I really don't want to
spend the money to buy it again if I don't have to.
> I am trying to reformat my hard drive but cannot find my CD-ROM for Windows
> XP-pro. I do not want to go any further until I have the program disc? Does
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> replied that they could not help me. How do I get a hold of these people for
> a new disc?
Daave - 30 Dec 2007 16:23 GMT
From the link Nepatsfan (congrats on 16-0, BTW!) and Ken gave:
"To replace Microsoft software that was distributed with your computer
by an OEM or a System Builder, contact the OEM or the System Builder
directly."
Years ago, I purchased a custom-built PC. I, too, lost my installation
disc. I contacted him, and he promptly mailed me a copy of a generic OEM
install disc, which can be used with one's product key. If you don't
know your product key, you should be able to retrieve it by using Belarc
or Magical Jellybean Finder:
(1) http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html
(2) http://www.magicaljellybean.com/keyfinder.shtml
Once you have your key, write in down and stick it to your PC's case!
Hopefully, you will be able to obtain a generic OEM disc, too, without
having to purchase a brand new one. Although it's possible to download a
torrent, I can't recommend this method because there's no guarantee it
will be free of viruses, rootkits, etc. Instead, maybe you can find
someone (a co-worker, friend, relative, neighbor, etc.) who has one.
Then you can make a copy.
Worst case scenario is that you will need to purchase another
installation disk, which should cost under $100. But let this be a last
resort.
Although the most certain method of cleaning a thoroughly compromised
system is to perform a clean install, you first may want to try
something less drastic. The many things you tried certainly haven't
worked yet, so let's start from scratch:
Malke's page has a lot of useful information:
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Viruses_Malware
Basically, you need to address viruses, worms, trojans, etc. *and*
non-viral malware (spyware, etc.) I know you already know this, but
since your methods (which you didn't disclose) haven't yielded
satisfactory results, I'm mentioning it.
For the first part of the equation, many people have had success with
David Lipman's Multi AV Scanning Tool:
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/sicherheit/35905/multi_av_scanning_tool.html
Although the page is in German, the tool is in English.
Personally, I've been very happy with AVG Free:
http://free.grisoft.com/doc/2/
Others have reported that Avast is a very good antivirus app:
http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
(By the way, all the links I'm giving you are for freeware.)
And for spyware, there are many fans of SUPERAntiSpyware Free:
http://www.superantispyware.com/superantispywarefreevspro.html
Personally, I use Ad-Aware and Spybot Search & Destroy to handle
spyware:
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/spybotsd/index.html
If you're interested in *preventing* spyware from entering your PC,
SpywareBlaster is a good app:
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html
One final suggestion is to run HijackThis (if you think you may still
have more malware). Download it from:
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/programs.php
and post the log to an appropriate forum, such as:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/forum22.html
Here's a helpful tutorial:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial42.html
Once you are satisfied that you are malware-free, there are other steps
you can take to speed up your PC. First of all, you need to determine
if you have enough RAM for how you use your PC. Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to
open Task Manager. Click on the Performance tab.
Look under Commit Charge (K) in the lower left-hand corner. What are the
values for Total, Limit, and Peak? Also, how much RAM *do* you have?
If you don't have enough memory, you will find Windows will start using
the pagefile frequently, which slows everything down.
Last suggestion:
Take out the trash (clear temp files) and defrag the hard drive if you
haven't done so already. There are a few different ways to clear away
temp files from within Windows (Disk Cleanup, for instance). I
personally like Ccleaner, which has a very user-friendly interface:
http://www.ccleaner.com/
Just use the main feature of cleaning temp files. Don't use the Issues
feature (not necessary and it's possible it might mess things up!).
Good luck!

Signature
Dave
> My computer is a custom built computer. I bought all the hard ware and
> software individually and had it custom built so no it did not "come"
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>> they could not help me. How do I get a hold of these people for a
>> new disc?
Ken Blake, MVP - 30 Dec 2007 17:14 GMT
> My computer is a custom built computer. I bought all the hard ware and
> software individually and had it custom built so no it did not "come" with it
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> My computer has been getting viruses despite my firewall, antispyware and
> antivirusware.
Then you are either using poor-quality security software, not keeping
them up-to-date, not practicing safe hex, or all three.
> It is slow it keeps freezing up and I'm constantly having to
> reboot my computer. I have tried many things already but still cannot get my
> computer totally cleaned so now I am ready to reformat my hard drive and
> start with a clean slate,
If you do that without finding out what the problems are, and what
caused them, you will undoubtedly repeat the behavior that caused the
problems and quickly find yourself back in the same situation. I am
hardly ever in favor of doing this, but it's your choice of course.
> I just can't do it without having all of my
> software discs especially my Windows XP Pro disc and I really don't want to
> spend the money to buy it again if I don't have to.
Regarding your application software, whether you can get replacements
depends on what the software is and who manufactured it.
Regarding Windows, whether you can get a replacement or not depends on
whether it's OEM or not. Reread what I posted in an earlier message in
this thread:
If your copy of Windows is an OEM version (computers that come with
Windows pre-installed have OEM versions, but also some people buy and
install OEM versions themselves), Microsoft will not help you. You
need to contact the OEM to find out how to reinstall, or to buy a CD
from them.
But if it's a retail CD, contact Microsoft. You may be able to get a
replacement CD at a nominal cost. Look here:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326246/en-us
> > I am trying to reformat my hard drive but cannot find my CD-ROM for Windows
> > XP-pro. I do not want to go any further until I have the program disc? Does
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> > replied that they could not help me. How do I get a hold of these people for
> > a new disc?

Signature
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Shenan Stanley - 30 Dec 2007 17:42 GMT
> I am trying to reformat my hard drive but cannot find my CD-ROM for
> Windows XP-pro. I do not want to go any further until I have the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> replied that they could not help me. How do I get a hold of these
> people for a new disc?
> My computer is a custom built computer. I bought all the hard ware
> and software individually and had it custom built so no it did not
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> especially my Windows XP Pro disc and I really don't want to spend
> the money to buy it again if I don't have to.
You were answered - twice - with the proper answer before you wrote this
additional response...
"frustrated' or not - you should read the answers people give you in full.
;-)
How to replace Microsoft software or hardware, order service packs and
product
upgrades, or replace product manuals
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326246
You will need proof of purchase.
Beyond that - given what you have - if you can find somoeone with the same
type (GenericOEM or RETAIL - depending on what you bought) Windows XP CD,
you can copy/utilize it. Don't know which you bought? Think back to how
much it cost. Since you say Windows XP Professional; $199+ - Likely Retail.
Less than that for the OS? Likely OEM.

Signature
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html