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Hedayat SM - 10 Jun 2008 21:01 GMT Hi. I've had this problem before but I brought it to Acer service center and they fixed it since it was on warranty. Now the warranty is expired and if I go back it'd cost me.
My computer is extremely slow, suddenly. It happened over night and the startup takes about 20 minutes (Even when I just turn on my computer and the Windows XP logo is shown with the progression bar running, it runs for 5 minutes). When I run programmes, the programmes are slow. When I watch movies or hear music in windows media player, the songs and movies or videos are broken into bits a pieces and lags like hell. It takes more than 2 minutes to open internet explorer.
When previously I went to the service center for the same problem, the engineer mentioned to me that this is caused by one of the registry entries corrupted and the coordination between the drives, cd drives and all other internal components are not running properly thats why things are so slow and he also mentioned that fixing it is pretty easy and that all we have to do is delete the registry entry and restart the computer and Windows XP will automatically reinstall the registry entry by itself and all would be fine - he did it and proved to me that it worked and well, it DID work.
Now I've got the same problem and I can't go back. Can anyone help me? Tell me what registry entry he was talking about? Anything? If possible please reply to my email at 60380@myrp.edu.sg with the subject "Computer too slow" because I do not check this website often nor my current signed in email often. Thank you very much. Your help is very much appreciated.
P.S: Reformatting is not a solution as I'm using my laptop for school purposes and there are more than 200GB of files scattered everywhere that I need.
Shenan Stanley - 10 Jun 2008 21:30 GMT > Hi. I've had this problem before but I brought it to Acer service > center and they fixed it since it was on warranty. Now the warranty [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > school purposes and there are more than 200GB of files scattered > everywhere that I need. You likely need to clean it up...
I'll give you the spiel with SP2 - not SP3 mentioned - as I think you should stay away from SP3 until you have it cleaned and backed up.
Microsoft has these suggestions for Protecting your computer from the various things that could happen to you/it:
Protect your PC http://www.microsoft.com/protect/
Outfitting an XP computer for the Net http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/advanced/xppc.mspx
Getting started with a new PC http://www.microsoft.com/athome/moredone/yournewpc.mspx
Although those tips are fantastic, there are many things you should know above and beyond that. Below I have detailed out many tips that can not only help you clean-up a problem PC but keep it clean, secure and running at its best.
I know this text can seem intimidating - it is quite long and a lot to take in for a novice - however I can assure you that one pass through this list and you will understand your computer and the options available to you for protecting your data much better - and that the next time you go through these steps, the time it takes will be greatly reduced - since many things can be setup to automatically protect you.
Let's take the cleanup/securing of your computer step-by-step. Yes, it will take up some of your time - but consider what you use your computer for and how much you would dislike it if all of your stuff on your computer went away because you did not "feel like" performing some simple maintenance tasks - think of it like taking out your garbage, collecting and sorting your postal mail, paying your bills on time, etc.
Now is a great time to point you to one of the easiest ways to find information on problems you may be having and solutions others have found:
Search using Google! http://www.google.com/ (How-to: http://www.google.com/intl/en/help/basics.html )
Now, let's go through some maintenance first that should only have to be done once (for the most part):
Tip (1): Locate all of the software you have installed on your computer. (the installation media - CDs, downloaded files, etc) Collect these CD/DVDs and files together in a central and safe place along with their CD keys and such. Make backups of these installation media sets using your favorite copying method (CD/DVD Burner and application, Disk copier, etc.) You'll be glad to know that if you have a CD/DVD burner, you may be able to use a free application to make a duplicate copy of your CDs. One such application is ISORecorder:
ISORecorder page (with general instructions on use): http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
More full function applications (free) for CD/DVD burning would be:
CDBurnerXP Pro http://www.cdburnerxp.se/
DeepBurner Free http://www.deepburner.com/
ImgBurn (burn ISO images) http://www.imgburn.com/
Final Burner Free http://www.protectedsoft.com/descr_fb.php
BWGBurn http://sourceforge.net/projects/bwgburn
BurnAware FREE Edition http://www.glorylogic.com/
Another Option would be to search the web with Pricewatch.com or Dealsites.net and find deals on Products like Ahead Nero and/or Roxio.
Ahead Nero http://www.nero.com/
Roxio Easy Media Creator http://www.roxio.com/
Tip (2): Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores to a size between 128MB and 256MB..
- Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer. - Select TOOLS -> Internet Options. - Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section, do the following: - Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK) - Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:" to something between 128MB and 256MB. - Click OK. - Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline contents" (the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this could take 2-10 minutes or more.) - Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open Internet Explorer.
Tip (3): If things are running a bit sluggish and/or you have an older system (1.8GHz or less and less than 512MB RAM) then you may want to look into tweaking the performance by turning off some of the 'resource hogging' Windows XP "prettifications". The fastest method is:
Control Panel --> System --> Advanced tab --> Performance section, Settings button. Then choose "adjust for best performance" and you now have a Windows 2000/98 look which turned off most of the annoying "prettifications" in one swift action. You can play with the last three checkboxes to get more of an XP look without many of the other annoyances. You could also grab and install/use one (or more) of the Microsoft Powertoys - TweakUI in particular:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
Another viable (decently inexpensive) option is to increase the amount of memory (RAM) your computer has. You can get an idea of what you need by visiting:
Crucial Memory AdvisorT Tool http://www.crucial.com/
Then either buy direct from there or write down the specs you get and visit: http://www.pricewatch.com/ and locate the best price on what you need. 512MB up to 1GB total memory should be more than enough for the normal home user.
Tip (4): Understanding what a good password might be is vital to your personal and system security. You may think you do not need to password your home computer, as you may have it in a locked area (your home) where no one else has access to it. Remember, however, you aren't always "in that locked area" when using your computer online - meaning you likely have usernames and passwords associated with web sites and the likes that you would prefer other people do not discover/use. This is why you should understand and utilize good passwords.
Good passwords are those that meet these general rules (mileage may vary):
Passwords should contain at least six characters, and the character string should contain at least three of these four character types: - uppercase letters - lowercase letters - numerals - nonalphanumeric characters (e.g., *, %, &, !, :)
Passwords should not contain your name/username. Passwords should be unique to you and easy to remember.
One method many people are using today is to make up a phrase that describes a point in their life and then turning that phrase into their password by using only certain letters out of each word in that phrase. It's much better than using your birthday month/year or your anniversary in a pure sense. For example, let's say my phrase is: 'Great Thanksgiving in 2007!' I could come up with this password from that: 'Gr8Thanksgiving2007!'
The password tip is in the one time section, but I highly recommend you periodically change your passwords. The suggested time varies, but I will throw out a 'once in every 3 to 6 months for every account you have.'
Also - many people complain that they just cannot remember the passwords for all the sites they have - so they choose one password and use it for everything. Not a good idea. A much better method would be to use a Password Management tool - so you only have to remember one password, but it opens an application that stores your username/passwords for everything else - plus other valuable information. One that I can recommend:
KeePass Password Safe http://keepass.sourceforge.net/
It can even generate passwords for you.
Tip (5): This tip is also 'questionable' in the one time section; however - if properly setup - this one can be pretty well ignored for most people after the initial 'fiddle-with' time.
Why you should use a computer firewall.. http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/firewall/choosing.mspx
You should, in some way, use a firewall. Hardware (like a nice Cable Modem/DSL router) or software is up to you. Many use both of these. The simplest one to use is the hardware one, as most people don't do anything that they will need to configure their NAT device for and those who do certainly will not mind fiddling with the equipment to make things work for them. Next in the line of simplicity would have to be the built-in Windows Firewall of Windows XP. In SP2 it is turned on by default. It is not difficult to turn on in any case, however:
More information on the Internet Connection Firewall (Pre-SP2): http://support.microsoft.com/kb/320855
Post-SP2 Windows Firewall Information/guidance: http://snipurl.com/atal
The trouble with the Windows Firewall is that it only keeps things out. For most people who maintain their system in other ways, this is MORE than sufficient. You may feel otherwise. If you want to know when one of your applications is trying to obtain access to the outside world so you can stop it, then you will have to install a third-party application and configure/maintain it. I have compiled a list with links of some of the better known/free firewalls you can choose from:
Comodo Free Fireall (Free) http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/
Jetico Personal Firewall (Free) http://www.jetico.com/index.htm#/jpfirewall.htm
Outpost Firewall from Agnitum (Free and up) http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpostfree/
Sunbelt Kerio Personal Firewall (KPF) (Free and up) http://www.kerio.com/kpf_download.html
ZoneAlarm (Free and up) http://www.zonelabs.com/
You should find the right firewall for your situation in that list and set it up if you feel the Windows XP firewall is insufficient.
Every firewall WILL require some maintenance. Essentially checking for patches or upgrades (this goes for hardware and software solutions) is the extent of this maintenance - you may also have to configure your firewall to allow some traffic depending on your needs.
** Don't stack the software firewalls! Running more than one software firewall will not make you safer - it would possibly negate some protection you gleamed from one or the other firewall you run. It is fine (and in many ways better) to have the software firewall as well as a NAT router.
Now that you have some of the more basic things down.. Let's go through some of the steps you should take periodically to maintain a healthy and stable windows computer. If you have not done some of these things in the past, they may seem tedious - however, they will become routine and some can even be scheduled.
Tip (6): The system restore feature is only a useful feature if you keep it maintained and use it to your advantage. Remember that the system restore pretty much tells you in the name what it protects which is 'system' files. Your documents, your pictures, your stuff is NOT system files - so you should also look into some backup solution.
Whenever you think about it (after doing a once-over on your machine once a month or so would be optimal) - clear out your System Restore and create a manual restoration point.
'Why?'
Too many times have I seen the system restore files go corrupt or get a virus in them, meaning you could not or did not want to restore from them. By clearing it out periodically you help prevent any corruption from happening and you make sure you have at least one good "snapshot". (*This, of course, will erase any previous restore point you have.*)
- Turn off System Restore. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310405 - Reboot the Computer. - Review the first bullet to turn on System Restore - Make a Manual Restoration Point. http://snipurl.com/68nx
Don't want to remove ALL the system restore points? Don't. Simply utilize "Disk Cleanup" (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312) to remove all but the last system restore point.
Also - I suggest changing how much space System Restore can utilize. When it was first released, Windows XP didn't have to deal with hard disk drives of quite the bulk of today's drives. So, it may be a bit ambitious in setting the System Restore sizing. I personally suggest you set it to approximately 1GB, total.
See "Disk Space for System Restore" on how to change this: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/getstarted/ballew_03may1 9.mspx
That covers your system files, but doesn't do anything for the files that you are REALLY worried about - yours! For that you need to look into backups. You can either manually copy your important files, folders, documents, spreadsheets, emails, contacts, pictures, drawings and so on to an external location (CD/DVD - any disk of some sort, etc) or you can use the backup tool that comes with Windows XP:
How To Use Backup to Back Up Files and Folders on Your Computer http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308422
Yes - you still need some sort of external media to store the results on, but you could schedule the backup to occur when you are not around, then burn the resultant data onto CD or DVD or something when you are (while you do other things!)
Another option that seems to still be going strong:
Cobian Backup http://www.educ.umu.se/~cobian/cobianbackup.htm
A lot of people have wondered about how to completely backup their system so that they would not have to go through the trouble of a reinstall.. I'm going to voice my opinion here and say that it would be worthless to do for MOST people. Unless you plan on periodically updating the image backup of your system (remaking it) - then by the time you use it (something goes wrong) - it will be so outdated as to be more trouble than performing a full install of the operating system and all applications.
Having said my part against it, you can clone/backup your hard drive completely using many methods - by far the simplest are using disk cloning applications:
Symantec/Norton Ghost http://snipurl.com/13e00
Acronis True Image http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/
BootIt NG http://terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html
Tip (7): You should sometimes look through the list of applications that are installed on your computer. The list may surprise you. There are more than likely things in there you know you never use - so why have them there? There may even be things you know you did *not* install and certainly do not use (maybe don't WANT to use.)
This web site should help you get started at looking through this list:
How to Uninstall Programs http://snipurl.com/8v6b
How to change or remove a program in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307895
A word of warning - Do NOT uninstall anything you think you MIGHT need in the future unless you have completed Tip (1) and have the installation media and proper keys for use backed up somewhere safe!
Tip (8): Patches and Updates!
This one cannot be stressed enough. It is SO simple, yet so neglected by many people. It is really simple for the critical Microsoft patches! Microsoft put in an AUTOMATED feature for you to utilize so that you do NOT have to worry yourself about the patching of the Operating System:
How to configure and use Automatic Updates in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525
However, not everyone wants to be a slave to automation, and that is fine. Admittedly, I prefer this method on some of my more critical systems.
Windows Update http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
Go there and scan your machine for updates. Always get the critical ones as you see them. Write down the KB###### or Q###### you see when selecting the updates and if you have trouble over the next few days, go into your control panel (Add/Remove Programs), insure that the 'Show Updates' checkbox is checked and match up the latest numbers you downloaded recently (since you started noticing an issue) and uninstall them. If there was more than one (usually is), uninstall them one by one with a few hours of use in between, to see if the problem returns. Yes - the process is not perfect (updating) and can cause trouble like I mentioned - but as you can see, the solution isn't that bad - and is MUCH better than the alternatives.
Windows is not the only product you likely have on your PC. The manufacturers of the other products usually have updates. New versions of almost everything come out all the time - some are free, some are pay and some you can only download if you are registered - but it is best to check. Just go to their web pages and look under their support and download sections. For example, for Microsoft Office you should visit:
Microsoft Office Updates http://office.microsoft.com/ (and select 'Downloads' for more - note that Microsoft Update does handle MS Office products too.)
You also have hardware on your machine that requires drivers to interface with the operating system. You have a video card that allows you to see on your screen, a sound card that allows you to hear your PCs sound output and so on. Visit those manufacturer web sites for the latest downloadable drivers for your hardware/operating system. Always get the manufacturers' hardware driver over any Microsoft offers. On the Windows Update site I mentioned earlier, I suggest NOT getting their hardware drivers - no matter how tempting.
How do you know what hardware you have in your computer? Break out the invoice or if it is up and working now - take inventory:
Belarc Advisor http://belarc.com/free_download.html
Once you know what you have, what next? Go get the latest driver for your hardware/OS from the manufacturer's web page. For example, let's say you have an NVidia chipset video card or ATI video card, perhaps a Creative Labs sound card or C-Media chipset sound card...
NVidia Video Card Drivers http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp
ATI Video Card Drivers http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
Creative Labs Sound Device http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/
C-Media Sound Device http://www.cmedia.com.tw/?q=en/driver
Then install these drivers. Updated drivers are usually more stable and may provide extra benefits/features that you really wished you had before.
As for Service Pack 2 (SP2) for Windows XP, Microsoft has made this particular patch available in a number of ways. First, there is the Windows Update web page above. Then there is a direct download site.
Direct Download of Service Pack 2 (SP2) for Windows XP http://snipurl.com/8bqy
Order Windows XP Service Pack 2 on CD http://snipurl.com/d41v
If all else fails - grab the full download above and try to use that. In this case - consider yourself a 'IT professional or developer'.
Tip (9): What about the dreaded word in the computer world, VIRUS?
Well, there are many products to choose from that will help you prevent infections from these horrid little applications. Many are FREE to the home user and which you choose is a matter of taste, really. Many people have emotional attachments or performance issues with one or another AntiVirus software. Try some out, read reviews and decide for yourself which you like more:
( Good Comparison Page for AV software: http://www.av-comparatives.org/ )
AntiVir (Free and up) http://www.free-av.com/
avast! (Free and up) http://www.avast.com/
AVG Anti-Virus System (Free and up) http://free.grisoft.com/
eset NOD32 (~$39.00 and up) http://www.eset.com/products/
Kaspersky Anti-Virus (~$39.95 and up) http://www.kaspersky.com/kaspersky_anti-virus
McAfee VirusScan (~$39.99 and up) http://www.mcafee.com/
Panda Antivirus (~$39.95 and up) http://www.pandasecurity.com/homeusers/solutions/antivirus/ (Free Online Scanner: http://www.pandasecurity.com/homeusers/solutions/activescan/)
Symantec (Norton) AntiVirus (~$39.99 and up) http://snipurl.com/13e12
Most of them have automatic update capabilities. You will have to look into the features of the one you choose. Whatever one you finally settle with - be SURE to keep it updated (I recommend at least daily) and perform a full scan periodically (yes, most protect you actively, but a full scan once a month at 4AM probably won't bother you.)
Tip (10): The most rampant infestation at the current time concerns SPYWARE/ADWARE. You need to eliminate it from your machine.
There is no one software that cleans and immunizes you against everything. Antivirus software - you only needed one. Firewall, you only needed one. AntiSpyware - you will need several. I have a list and I recommend you use at least the first five.
First - make sure you have NOT installed "Rogue AntiSpyware". There are people out there who created AntiSpyware products that actually install spyware of their own! You need to avoid these:
Rogue/Suspect Anti-Spyware Products & Web Sites http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm
Also, you can always visit this site.. http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm For more updated information.
Install several of these: (Install, Run, Update, Scan with..) (If you already have one or more - uninstall them and download the LATEST version from the page given!)
SuperAntiSpyware (Free and up) http://www.superantispyware.com/
Lavasoft Ad-Aware 2007 Free (Free and up) http://www.lavasoft.de/products/ad_aware_free.php (How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdn )
Spybot Search and Destroy (Free!) http://www.safer-networking.net/en/download/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdk )
SpywareBlaster (Free!) http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate6 )
CWShredder Stand-Alone (Free!) http://www.trendmicro.com/cwshredder/
Hijack This! (Free!) http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html (Log Analyzer: http://hjt.networktechs.com/ )
Bazooka Adware and Spyware Scanner (Free!) http://www.kephyr.com/spywarescanner/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate3 )
Ccleaner (Free!) http://www.ccleaner.com/ (I suggest the 'slim' version: http://www.ccleaner.com/download/builds )
Browser Security Tests (Free Tester) http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/BrowserSecurity/
Popup Tester (Free Tester) http://www.popuptest.com/
The Cleaner (~$49.95 and up) http://www.moosoft.com/
Sometimes you need to install the application and reboot into SAFE MODE in order to thoroughly clean your computer. Many applications also have (or are) immunization applications. Spybot Search and Destroy and SpywareBlaster are two that currently do the best job at passively protecting your system from malware. None of these programs (in these editions) run in the background unless you TELL them to. The space they take up and how easy they are to use greatly makes up for any inconvenience you may be feeling.
Please notice that Windows XP SP2 does help stop popups as well.
Another option is to use an alternative Web browser. I suggest 'Mozilla Firefox', as it has some great features and is very easy to use:
Mozilla Firefox http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/
This does not replace the need for the above applications and an occassional scan of your system - but it does help somewhat.
Also - Internet Explorer 7.x is much better with the security than 6.x was. If you have not gone to Internet Explorer 7.0 and you are having trouble with spyware/adware - consider going now. Cleanup with the tools above *first* however.
So your machine is pretty clean and up to date now. If you use the sections above as a guide, it should stay that way! There are still a few more things you can do to keep your machine running in top shape.
Tip (11): You should periodically check your hard drive(s) for errors and defragment them. Only defragment after you have cleaned up your machine of outside parasites and never defragment as a solution to a quirkiness in your system. It may help speed up your system, but it should be clean before you do this. Do these things IN ORDER...
How to use Disk Cleanup http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312
How to scan your disks for errors http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315265
How to Defragment your hard drives http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314848
I would personally perform the above steps at least once every three months. For most people this should be sufficient, but if the difference you notice afterwards is greater than you think it should be, lessen the time in between its schedule.. If the difference you notice is negligible, you can increase the time.
Tip (12): SPAM! JUNK MAIL! This one can get annoying, just like the rest. You get 50 emails in one sitting and 2 of them you wanted. NICE! (Not.) What can you do? Well, although there are services out there to help you, some email servers/services that actually do lower your spam with features built into their servers - I still like the methods that let you be the end-decision maker on what is spam and what is not. I have a few products to suggest to you, look at them and see if any of them suite your needs. Again, if they don't, Google is free and available for your perusal.
SpamBayes (Free!) http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/
Spamihilator (Free!) http://www.spamihilator.com/
MailWasher http://www.mailwasher.net/
Another option - utilze some service that already does a FINE JOB on eliminating the spam from your mailbox (plus a number of other benefits.)
Google Mail (gmail): http://www.gmail.com/ (Set it up for your email client of choice - using POP: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13273 )
Windows Live Hotmail (formerly just "Hotmail"): http://get.live.com/mail/options
There are many others. Email from anywhere with a computer, lots of space for your emails/attachments, free services and if you change ISPs - your email doesn't change!
As I said, those are not your only options, but are reliable ones I have seen function for hundreds+ people. Feel free to search for your own solutions!
Tip (13): ADVANCED TIP! Only do this once you are comfortable under the hood of your computer!
There are lots of services on your PC that are probably turned on by default you don't use. Why have them on? Check out these web pages to see what all of the services you might find on your computer are and set them according to your personal needs. Be CAREFUL what you set to manual, and take heed and write down as you change things! Also, don't expect a large performance increase or anything - especially on today's 2+ GHz machines, however - I look at each service you set to manual as one less service you have to worry about someone exploiting.
Service Configuration Tips http://www.tweakhound.com/xp/xptweaks/supertweaks6.htm
Configuring Services http://smallvoid.com/tweak/winnt/services.html
Task List Programs http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist.htm
Processes in Windows NT/2000/XP http://www.reger24.de/prozesse/
There are also applications that AREN'T services that startup when you start up the computer/logon. One of the better description on how to handle these I have found here:
Startups http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php
If you follow the advice laid out above (and do some of your own research as well, so you understand what you are doing) - your computer will stay fairly stable and secure and you will have a more trouble-free system.
 Signature Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Hedayat SM - 10 Jun 2008 22:32 GMT Shenan, I appreciate your speedy reply, but would like to say that the whole chunk of reply you posted didn't help. Could you tell me if you know anything about the registry thing I'm talking about in a short and simple paragraph? Thank you.
Your help is very much appreciated.
> > Hi. I've had this problem before but I brought it to Acer service > > center and they fixed it since it was on warranty. Now the warranty [quoted text clipped - 291 lines] > restore pretty much tells you in the name what it protects which is > 'system' files. Your documents, your pictures, your stuff is NOT Shenan Stanley - 10 Jun 2008 22:49 GMT > Shenan, I appreciate your speedy reply, but would like to say that > the whole chunk of reply you posted didn't help. Could you tell me > if you know anything about the registry thing I'm talking about in > a short and simple paragraph? Thank you. > > Your help is very much appreciated. Yes.
Either you are remembering incorrectly or the so-called techs were throwing out meaningless phrases at you because they either did not know better or they just did not care and they just backed up your data, restored it to 'as shipped' and put your stuff back. (Perhaps your computer has a non-destructive restore.)
This, "the engineer mentioned to me that this is caused by one of the registry entries corrupted and the coordination between the drives, cd drives and all other internal components are not running properly thats why things are so slow and he also mentioned that fixing it is pretty easy and that all we have to do is delete the registry entry and restart the computer and Windows XP will automatically reinstall the registry entry by itself and all would be fine - he did it and proved to me that it worked and well", is magical mumbo-jumbo in reference to your posted problem of "computer is extremely slow"...
In other words - either your problem is different this time and you are having selective recall OR they told you what they knew you'd believe and when they 'showed you it worked' - they had probably already done more or they knew which registry entry would keep the spyware from loading at startup. hah
Sorry - simply fact. Your description and the solution you recall cannot jive without a LOT more information.
You need to go through what I posted anyway if you are concerned over the "... 200GB of files scattered everywhere that I need ..." and learn to perform proper backups of stuff that is important to you _or_ prepare to live with them disappearing one day for various reasons. ;-)
 Signature Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Leonard Grey - 10 Jun 2008 22:20 GMT "When previously I went to the service center for the same problem, the engineer mentioned to me that this is caused by one of the registry entries corrupted and the coordination between the drives, cd drives and all other internal components are not running properly thats why things are so slow..."
That's pure crap.
"...all we have to do is delete the registry entry and restart the computer and Windows XP will automatically reinstall the registry entry by itself."
That's more crap.
--- Leonard Grey Errare humanum est
> Hi. I've had this problem before but I brought it to Acer service center and > they fixed it since it was on warranty. Now the warranty is expired and if I [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > purposes and there are more than 200GB of files scattered everywhere that I > need. Hedayat SM - 10 Jun 2008 22:29 GMT Your post is total crap. Irrelevant. Obviously, you're not reading, I said, the previous time I went there and he did it, it worked. Obviously you don't know what that guy knew. :) If you don't know the solution, just watch and learn from the others.
Cheers.
> "When previously I went to the service center for the same problem, the > engineer mentioned to me that this is caused by one of the registry [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > purposes and there are more than 200GB of files scattered everywhere that I > > need. Gerry - 11 Jun 2008 10:43 GMT Sorry my friend Leonard is just saying what Shenan said in a more polite way. The solution is not tinkering with the Registry. You need to investigate various things to determine why your computer is slow. Shenan made a number of suggestions!
How much RAM memory?
Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?
You should be able to gather more information from Task Manager. With the Processes tab open select View, Select, Columns and check the boxes before Peak Memory Usage and Virtual Memory size. What are the figures for the 6 processes using the largest amounts?
Do you leave the computer on 24/7?
I would be interested in seeing a Disk Defragmenter report. Open Disk Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents Folder and post a copy. Do this before running Disk Defragmenter as it is more informative.
These questions are asked to get background information not because I think you might need to run Disk Defragmenter!
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> Your post is total crap. Irrelevant. Obviously, you're not reading, I > said, the previous time I went there and he did it, it worked. [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] >>> school purposes and there are more than 200GB of files scattered >>> everywhere that I need. Leonard Grey - 11 Jun 2008 15:35 GMT I do have a propensity, at times, to condense what might otherwise be an elongated recital into a bare minimum of words.
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> Sorry my friend Leonard is just saying what Shenan said in a more polite > way. The solution is not tinkering with the Registry. You need to [quoted text clipped - 92 lines] >>>> school purposes and there are more than 200GB of files scattered >>>> everywhere that I need. Gerry - 11 Jun 2008 17:17 GMT Yes Leonard I have noticed <G>.
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> I do have a propensity, at times, to condense what might otherwise be > an elongated recital into a bare minimum of words. [quoted text clipped - 99 lines] >>>>> school purposes and there are more than 200GB of files scattered >>>>> everywhere that I need. dor.raba.forums@gmail.com - 29 Jun 2008 09:56 GMT You should probably clean up your registry to fix this problem, you can find information and reviews on registry cleaners at http://TopRegistryCleanersCenter.com
Gerry - 29 Jun 2008 11:09 GMT Dump the registry cleaner http://aumha.net:80/viewtopic.php?t=28099
Once you have used a registry cleaner there is no way to know whether it has damaged the registry.
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> You should probably clean up your registry to fix this problem, you > can find information and reviews on registry cleaners at > http://TopRegistryCleanersCenter.com w_tom - 11 Jun 2008 13:41 GMT On Jun 10, 5:29 pm, Hedayat SM <Hedaya...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Your post is total crap. Irrelevant. Obviously, you're not reading, I said, > the previous time I went there and he did it, it worked. Acer tech's solution worked because he first identified the problem was before changing anything. Changing things only on wild speculation typically can make things worse. Identify a problem before fixing it. Only then know how to avoid that problem in the future. Anyone who repairs without first identifying the problem is unemployed quickly in any responsible shop.
What is reported in the standard locations? What does Device Manager report? What is reported in system (event) logs? In Task Manager, what processes are consuming excessive CPU time or massive virtual memory deltas? Does the system have plenty of CPU idle time? Necessary are these numbers.
No 'magic' registry solution exists. Deleting a wrong entry even may exponentially complicate the problem. Don't jump to conclusions using speculation. We learn by fixing things. A fundamental lesson of repair is to identify the problem before replacing anything. Don't shotgun.
Big_Al - 10 Jun 2008 22:35 GMT > Hi. I've had this problem before but I brought it to Acer service center and > they fixed it since it was on warranty. Now the warranty is expired and if I [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > purposes and there are more than 200GB of files scattered everywhere that I > need. The following is not my composition, but its still no worse for wear. I submit it as info if you wish to try some of it:
#1: A process that's loading down your CPU: It could be a sub-process or application that's running in the background and taking all the CPU resources, which could be the cause of your PC running slow. To find and display what could be the problem try Process Explorer: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/SystemInformation/ProcessExplorer.mspx
Note: Once you have Process Explorer installed and running: In the taskbar select View and check 'Show Process Tree' and 'Show Lower Pane' options. Then expand the process named 'Explorer' (click on the + sign) In the column on the left named 'CPU', look for any high CPU usage. Next click on the CPU column to sort the processes by %CPU usage (Highest to Lowest). Move the mouse cursor over any process, you should see a popup with some detailed info. Then mouse over the process that's using most or all the CPU %. Then click on that process to highlight it, Now that it's highlighted, right click and from the options listed select: 'Search Online' This should display what out there on the web about that process. You can also double click on any process to open up a more detailed 'Properties' window. Note: some entries like Explorer, System/Services, and Svchost entries may need to be expanded to show the detail (sub processes), in this case click on the + located to the left of the entry.
An alternate method using Process Explorer is to double click on the Graph just below the Menu bar. This will open the 'System Information' window, which has a larger display of all three graphs. Move your mouse over any spike in the CPU Usage graph to see what process/application or service was the cause of the spike.
#2: Stuff that loads during boot or logon and then is always running in the background: If you want to list and explore what may be the cause then: Try Autoruns from the MS Windows SysInternals site: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndThreads/Autoruns.mspx
AutoRuns will show/list all apps/etc. that load/run when you first boot (Boot Execute tab), when you logon (Logon tab) and other programs that load (grouped by labeled tabs) for easy viewing. It also provides the ability to selectively allows you to stop any program (use with care) that you don't want to load. You can undo any changes you have made. Note: To get additional details on an item in the list you may need to highlight the item (right click) and use the 'Search Online' option to get the details, especially useful for the more obscure items in the list.
Daave - 11 Jun 2008 15:01 GMT > Hi. I've had this problem before but I brought it to Acer service > center and they fixed it since it was on warranty. Now the warranty [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > purposes and there are more than 200GB of files scattered everywhere > that I need. Either you are remembering incorrectly or the tech sold you a bill of goods.
The first thing to try is to boot into Safe Mode (you will need to repeatedly tap F8 until you get a screen of boot choices). Try some basic things (use Windows Explorer, create documents in Notepad, etc.). Is your performance still slow?
Since this is Usenet, I doubt many people will take you up on your offer to e-mail you privately. Print out Shenan's post if you haven't done so already. That will save you a lot of headaches.
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