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Dang Photo Printing
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Semaj Retnik - 29 Sep 2004 20:03 GMT Hi All. That Photo Printing app that XP uses by default to preview a photo before printing has given me fits. A customer of mine was using it just fine for a while. He gets fax-by-email so he gets alot of multi page tif's and pics, etc as his attachments. As I said, the preview thingy worked great until he got around 4,000 images built up in his mail attachments folder, and now, when he tries to open a new picture to print (be it a JPG, faxed TIF, etc) it basically crashes his computer as it tries to load THOUSANDS of pictures in the attach folder. Its only a laptop for {insert your personal deity here} sakes !! :-) My Linux boxes might be able to handle it, but even that is pushing it :-)
NO, moving the pics would not be acceptable, as the only way he can refer back to them in the future is via the email, and if he moves the pic, the link in the email to the pic breaks. It would be as good as deleting the file for him.
Is there a registry hack or otherwise to STOP that darned program from loading !4-5000+! pictures when all he wants is the CURRENT one he opens via the link in the email? A limit I can set somewhere say to 50 or 100 max perhaps?
It seemed like a decent addition for XP till this crap happened. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let a a knowledgeable MS geek answer this. I dont need any "Move the files" "Go into Explorer and find the file" blah blah blah. We want it to open ONLY what he opens, and not try and load the whole damn directory. The only acceptable workaround in this sitution would be to limit what that thing opens by default. We have tried other programs and he is "just not comfortable" with those <groan> If it was me, I would chuck that thing and just go with PSP or PhotoShop and totally yank that photo previewer, but it aint.... Its him and he is getting frustrated, which in turn works on my nerves.
I am VERY knowledgeable of the registry (tried to find a setting for it in there to no avail), so dont be shy about having me to go into HKLM\MSoftware\Microsoft\TheBloodyPreviewer\WhereverItLives \ and adding a key/string/dword/etc. :-)
Thanks. SR
John Inzer - 29 Sep 2004 21:23 GMT Have you tried emptying the TIF folder?
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> Hi All. > That Photo Printing app that XP uses by default to preview [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > Thanks. > SR Semaj Retnik - 29 Sep 2004 22:46 GMT I said...... We dont WANT to empty the folder (C:\mail attach) because then it would break the links in the email, he wouldnt be able to find a certain document later on, and it would be as good as deleting it for him (not being able to find it ever again---the filenames are random from the fax-to- email company). What we want is (if at all possible by ANY means) to have the program ONLY open the single file he opens, and NOT browse the entire folder the file lives in (or be able to set how many max it does see)
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>-----Original Message----- >Have you tried emptying the TIF folder? [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] >> setting for it in there to no avail), so dont be shy about >> having me to go into HKLM\MSoftware\Microsoft\TheBloodyPreviewer\WhereverItLives
>> \ and adding a key/string/dword/etc. :-) >> >> Thanks. >> SR > >. Yves Alarie - 30 Sep 2004 01:40 GMT I think you need to get your client organized here. Why can't you just make a new folder C:\2004_10_01 Mail Attach and keep everything new there for the month of October and then make a new folder C:\2004_11_01 Mail Attach for the month of November and then one every month. This way your client will not have thousands of pictures in one folder and he can get back to them easily because the folders will be listed in chronological order. As for the now overloaded folder, why can't you split this folder into two. Make two new folders: C:\2004_10_01 Mail Attach 0_ 2000 photos C:\2004_10_01 Mail Attach 2000_4000 photos Then copy photos 2000-4000 to one folder and rename the other folder to 0_2000 and delete the 2000 to 4000 photos from the original folder.
> I said...... > We dont WANT to empty the folder (C:\mail attach) because [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > > > >. Semaj Retnik - 30 Sep 2004 06:17 GMT He is fairly organized, just not in the windows folder itself, and that is somewhat the problem. He has all his emails organized in Eudora mail boxes, and if we move ANY attachements, the links inside each email will not work. With the way the emails come in from the fax-email service, they are random filenames. I have tried to move old stuff to a new subfolder, but when he went to try to find an older fax (realtor) to forward off to someone, he couldnt find it since the link didnt work. And we tried wading through the old files folder, but took forever... very inefficient. Believe me, I have tried everything I could to workaround, including loading a paint program to take over, but it doesnt handle the faxed->email docs as good (the size aspect (height/width) changes for some weird reason). I do think that the wizard is a good program, and we want to keep using it, but a setting to let the user decide what to and not to preview would be AWESOME (anyone listening up there in Redmond ;-) ). A simple setting of DONT PREVIEW ENTIRE FOLDER, default off, but able to turn on would be a godsend (just a 1 or 0 string in the registry...)
>-----Original Message----- >I think you need to get your client organized here. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >Then copy photos 2000-4000 to one folder and rename the other folder to >0_2000 and delete the 2000 to 4000 photos from the original folder. Wislu Plethora - 30 Sep 2004 13:45 GMT >-----Original Message----- >He is fairly organized, just not in the windows folder [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >on would be a godsend (just a 1 or 0 string in the >registry...) What you want to do ain't gonna happen. If your client wants to avoid the issue, what prevents him from right- clicking on the attachment and doing a "save as" (which would not remove the attachment from the message) to a folder on his desktop and printing from there? If that's not good enough, the client needs to just shut up, get back to work, and live with it.
John Inzer - 30 Sep 2004 02:46 GMT >I said...... > We dont WANT to empty the folder (C:\mail attach) because [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Thanks ======================================== I'm not referring to the folder (C:\mail attach)...
As I understand the issue...your client is printing by opening an attachment in an e-mail message... which would open the file in Windows Picture and Fax Viewer and then he would right click / print to open the Photo Printing Wizard. If this is not the issue then I apologize for trying to help you.
If I am correct...read the following....
The files you are seeing in the Photo Printing Wizard when you attempt to print from an e-mail message... are in your TIF (temporary internet files) folder. The TIF folder should be emptied daily for good computer maintenance.
Read the following articles:
(260897) How to Delete the Contents of the Temporary Internet Files Folder http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=260897
(310312) Description of the Disk Cleanup Tool in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=310312
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Semaj Retnik - 30 Sep 2004 06:05 GMT Hi John, I do appreciate any help on this. No, when he opens a file by clicking in his email, it does open it from C:\mail attach (We use Eudora and its set in there). Im guessing your thinking of the way OE/Outlook would work? So when he hits the PRINT button, and goes through the wizard, it sits there and tries to open/preview all 5000+ pictures in that folder. Being on a laptop with a fair amount of resources (1.2G, 256M SDRAM, 60G HDD), it basically chokes, throws the "Windows is increasing your virt memory" blah blah blah, thrashes the drive doing swaps, etc. And the way his "stuff" is organized is within the Eudora mailboxes, but moving the attachments would break the links in each mail. FYI, I wrote a script that cleans out temp files and stuff on each boot, and the Temp Inet Files stays fairly empty.
I talked to one person today, and they said there is some setting to shut off the preview or instead of "preview" open for edit and then it wont do the problem. Ill be trying that tomorrow (well... later today :-) )
Im betting there is an "unsupported" tweak buried somewhere in the registry to fix this. I personally dont have anything other than Win2K and RedHat, so I dont have any XP boxes here to play with, and I dont like sitting on his machine trying stuff, but we will look at the option I described above.
Thanks for trying anyways :-)
>I'm not referring to the folder (C:\mail attach)... > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >Tool in Windows XP >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=310312 John Inzer - 30 Sep 2004 06:38 GMT > Thanks for trying anyways :-) ======================= No problem. Maybe next time.
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Yves Alarie - 30 Sep 2004 15:06 GMT Long shot. These files may be in a sub-folder of the Internet Temporary Files. The folder would start with OLK and then some numbers. Difficult to navigate there. Instead do a search for OLK* Once this folder is found, open it and see if the files are there and just delete them.
> I said...... > We dont WANT to empty the folder (C:\mail attach) because [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > > > >. Yves Alarie - 30 Sep 2004 16:00 GMT Sorry, the above will not solve your problem. I have not used this printing in quite a while, and some pictures were added to any folder about a year ago, coming from the OLK folder. But this is not what is happening to your client here.
> Long shot. These files may be in a sub-folder of the Internet Temporary > Files. The folder would start with OLK and then some numbers. Difficult to [quoted text clipped - 82 lines] > > > > > >.
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