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walt - 19 Mar 2005 00:55 GMT
I am having a debate with someone over which is best. Buy a digital camera
with as much megapixal as possible or not. I say there is a limit for most
home users and most home printers that more is not always better. You will
not get any better picture with a 3meg vs a 6meg digital camera for most
purposes for home use, like 4x6, 5x7 or web pictures etc. Unless you want
full page ad type photo then you need more pixal. Am I correct? Can I get
some facts. Should I post this elsewhere?
Thanks
John Inzer - 19 Mar 2005 04:06 GMT
I agree with you. I'm thinking most home users
print mostly 4x6s a few 5x7s and an occasional
8x10. In my non-professional opinion...anything
larger than 3MP to 4MP for this purpose is not
necessary.

There are sample images from many different
cameras at the following website. I would suggest
that you download a few and experiment with them.

http://www.steves-digicams.com/hardware_reviews.html

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>I am having a debate with someone over which is best. Buy a digital camera
> with as much megapixal as possible or not. I say there is a limit for most
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> some facts. Should I post this elsewhere?
> Thanks
Yves Alarie - 19 Mar 2005 05:03 GMT
You can never be too rich.
You can never be too thin.
Your hard drive can never be big enough
You can never have too many megapixels.
The first two came from my grandmother, if she had lived long enough she
would have added the next two!~
Have fun arguing with your friend!
Sure, 3 MP is plenty to print 4x6 5x7 and even 8x 10.
But then, if you want a portion of the picture, you crop it. Now what?
The more megapixels you have, the better to print.

> I am having a debate with someone over which is best. Buy a digital camera
> with as much megapixal as possible or not. I say there is a limit for most
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> some facts. Should I post this elsewhere?
> Thanks
walt - 19 Mar 2005 05:15 GMT
Humm........So if you crop out a section you are reducing the pixel size
also? I thought that what ever part you crop out will still remain the same
quality. Am I getting this wrong?

> You can never be too rich.
> You can never be too thin.
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> > some facts. Should I post this elsewhere?
> > Thanks
David Candy - 19 Mar 2005 05:36 GMT
It will be the same quality but smaller. If you then print it at the same size as non cropped it will be lower quality.

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> Humm........So if you crop out a section you are reducing the pixel size
> also? I thought that what ever part you crop out will still remain the same
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>> > some facts. Should I post this elsewhere?
>> > Thanks
walt - 19 Mar 2005 06:31 GMT
I think I understand now, I have a Canon A70 have it set at the highest res.
I take a picture, will come out great at say 8x10 if I crop out and save 1/4
of it then I have to reduce my picture size by about 3/4 or is it not that
much of a ratio.
Thanks for the help and info.

> It will be the same quality but smaller. If you then print it at the same size as non cropped it will be lower quality.
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> >> > Thanks
PapaJohn \(MVP\) - 19 Mar 2005 05:17 GMT
I agree... and if you use PhotoStory and zoom into a picture, you need the
pixels to retain the sharpness throughout the process..

So pixels are needed for things beyond printing....
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> You can never be too rich.
> You can never be too thin.
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>> some facts. Should I post this elsewhere?
>> Thanks
walt - 19 Mar 2005 06:33 GMT
Thanks for the input.

"PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:

> I agree... and if you use PhotoStory and zoom into a picture, you need the
> pixels to retain the sharpness throughout the process..
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> >> some facts. Should I post this elsewhere?
> >> Thanks
gruffydd - 21 Mar 2005 21:18 GMT
surely if you cut a portion of a pic, and you wish to expand that portion,
the more pixies you have the better the enlargement?
Yves Alarie - 21 Mar 2005 23:43 GMT
Absolutely correct.
If you have a 3 MP file and you print 8 x 10 you will get a decent print.
Now, crop and keep half the original area of the picture. Try printing. Poor
results.
The addition from PapaJohn is also absolutely correct.
When using Photo Story 3, zooming in on a picture is the same as cropping.
The more megapixels you have the more zooming you can do, otherwise the
quality will be poor just like when printing.

> surely if you cut a portion of a pic, and you wish to expand that portion,
> the more pixies you have the better the enlargement?
walt - 22 Mar 2005 03:51 GMT
Thanks everyone for the help. By the way John my Digital Suite package is in
the mail. (Picture It Premium post)

> Absolutely correct.
> If you have a 3 MP file and you print 8 x 10 you will get a decent print.
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> > surely if you cut a portion of a pic, and you wish to expand that portion,
> > the more pixies you have the better the enlargement?
John Inzer - 22 Mar 2005 04:24 GMT
Let us know if you think the
upgrade was worth it.

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> Thanks everyone for the help. By the way John my Digital Suite package is
> in
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>> > portion,
>> > the more pixies you have the better the enlargement?
walt - 22 Mar 2005 04:57 GMT
Will do, by the way, Picture It Premium does not have the flip book in it.
Unless it is called something else, but I couldn't find any type of animator
in the program.

> Let us know if you think the
> upgrade was worth it.
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> >> > portion,
> >> > the more pixies you have the better the enlargement?
John Inzer - 22 Mar 2005 05:46 GMT
Thanks for the info about Flipbook, I only
have the DIP10 version so I am uncertain
as to exactly which features are in the
Premium version.

In DIP10 you'll find it at: Tools / Flipbook.

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> Will do, by the way, Picture It Premium does not have the flip book in it.
> Unless it is called something else, but I couldn't find any type of
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Chuck - 25 Mar 2005 05:10 GMT
I have both a 3.1 Mp Kodak and an 8.1Mp.Oly

There is an obvious difference in resolution.
Having said that, there are times when the faster cycle times of the 3.1 Mp
camera are much appreciated.
It is also true that the 8.1 is quite fast and maybe faster than the 3.1
when set to something other than "RAW" format.

If I know serious cropping is going to be necessary, The 8.1 Mp is the
obvious choice.

> Thanks for the info about Flipbook, I only
> have the DIP10 version so I am uncertain
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walt - 27 Mar 2005 04:09 GMT
Thanks for the input and info.

> I have both a 3.1 Mp Kodak and an 8.1Mp.Oly
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