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DCF - compliant jpegs.

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Frank Martin - 24 Feb 2008 21:21 GMT
I cannot display my photos on TV unless they
are "DCF compliant".

What does this mean, and how do I convert
them to this?

My camera produces 5meg digital jpeg photos.

Frank
Yves Alarie - 25 Feb 2008 01:34 GMT
DCF is simply Designed rules for Camera Files.
It is a way of naming files and all cameras use this.
The name of the file from your camera should be something like this:
PICT0138.jpg
or
DSCO1244.jpg

It should be, as above, 8 characters followed by .jpg

If you rename the files to something like:
A night in San Francisco.jpg
This is not DCF compliant.

However, you should tell us how you are trying to display these files on
your TV. DCF compliant was needed several years ago but no longer needed for
new devices to display files on TV, such as a recent (a few years ago) DVD
player.

>I cannot display my photos on TV unless they are "DCF compliant".
>
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>
> Frank
Frank Martin - 25 Feb 2008 21:06 GMT
I tried renaming the files, but the same
problem occurs.

> DCF is simply Designed rules for Camera
> Files.
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>>
>> Frank
Yves Alarie - 26 Feb 2008 09:38 GMT
If you tried renaming the file, it must be EXACTLY the same 8 characters
that your camera uses.
Still, you have to tell us, how are you trying to display these photo files
on your TV. You copied the files on a CD and you use a DVD player to display
them? Or you connect your camera directly to your TV to display the photo
files from the camera memory card?
Difficult for us to try to help if we have no info about how you tried to
display the photo files on your TV.

>I tried renaming the files, but the same problem occurs.
>
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>>>
>>> Frank
Frank Martin - 26 Feb 2008 20:55 GMT
> If you tried renaming the file, it must be
> EXACTLY the same 8 characters that your
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> no info about how you tried to display the
> photo files on your TV.

I can display them on TV with the DVD player.
It is with the memory stick ( a "SanDisk
Cruzer"" 2.0gb) that does not work.

My TV is a Sony Bravia with a USB slot in the
side, and I have tried the original camera
(Olympus) filenames.

>>I tried renaming the files, but the same
>>problem occurs.
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>>>>
>>>> Frank
Michael J. Mahon - 27 Feb 2008 05:24 GMT
>>If you tried renaming the file, it must be
>>EXACTLY the same 8 characters that your
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> side, and I have tried the original camera
> (Olympus) filenames.

Sorry to hear that the Sony viewer is so challenged...

>>>I tried renaming the files, but the same
>>>problem occurs.
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>>>>>
>>>>>Frank

-michael

"The wastebasket is our most important design
tool--and it's seriously underused."
Yves Alarie - 28 Feb 2008 16:17 GMT
I also have a Sony Bravia and can display files from  a Minolta camera
copied on a USB flash drive. I think what you called a "memory stick"
SanDisk Cruzer is actually a USB flash drive and not a memory stick (memory
stick is a Sony memory card used in Sony cameras). The problem you are
having with this "cruzer" is, most probably, that it has a variety of
options on it and not readily recognized by your TV as having the proper
camera compliant folder/file system. I have the same problem with the
SanDisk Cruzer. A pain in the neck, not the fault of your TV.

>> If you tried renaming the file, it must be EXACTLY the same 8 characters
>> that your camera uses.
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>>>>>
>>>>> Frank
Frank Martin - 28 Feb 2008 20:55 GMT
Thanks,  I will see if I can buy a suitable
"memory stick."

>I also have a Sony Bravia and can display
>files from  a Minolta camera copied on a USB
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frank
Michael J. Mahon - 29 Feb 2008 05:28 GMT
> Thanks,  I will see if I can buy a suitable
> "memory stick."

Making it work is probably as simple as creating a directory
in the root directory containing another directory called DCIM,
which, in turn, contains your .jpg files.

-michael

"The wastebasket is our most important design
tool--and it's seriously underused."
Michael J. Mahon - 29 Feb 2008 05:35 GMT
> I also have a Sony Bravia and can display files from  a Minolta camera
> copied on a USB flash drive. I think what you called a "memory stick"
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> camera compliant folder/file system. I have the same problem with the
> SanDisk Cruzer. A pain in the neck, not the fault of your TV.

Although I agree with you about a workaround for the problem,
I *do* think this is the fault of the TV.

Any flash memory picture viewing software, in the age of multi-
gigabyte flash memories, should contain versatile but simple
directory navigation software, so that with the remote control
the user can navigate to the desired directory and select it
for photo viewing.

The specifications for the universal FAT file system are well-known
and the software for doing this directory navigation is trivial in
its complexity.  Any *real* designer would include this capability
before advertising that their product contains a flash memory photo
viewer.

Forcing all the photos on a modern flash memory device to be in a
single directory, or presenting them as if they were, is stupid,
since there could easily be thousands of them on a single device
(and, in fact, this is a common way for people to carry their
"public" photos around).

-michael

"The wastebasket is our most important design
tool--and it's seriously underused."
 
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