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Site to Check for Activations Used on Product Key?

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Will - 24 Feb 2007 04:49 GMT
Does Microsoft maintain a site where you can input a product key and see how
many times it has been activated?    It would help me tremendously when
buying software from unknown vendors to keep them honest and make sure they
are not selling us software that someone else has already activated once or
twice.

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Shenan Stanley - 24 Feb 2007 05:10 GMT
> Does Microsoft maintain a site where you can input a product key
> and see how many times it has been activated?    It would help me
> tremendously when buying software from unknown vendors to keep them
> honest and make sure they are not selling us software that someone
> else has already activated once or twice.

No.

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Will - 24 Feb 2007 06:44 GMT
> > Does Microsoft maintain a site where you can input a product key
> > and see how many times it has been activated?    It would help me
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>
> No.

Not exactly making it easy for people who want to do the right thing are
they?

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Ian - 24 Feb 2007 09:21 GMT
I can imagine one reason they would be reluctant to do this is that it would
expose the fact that many OEMs are putting invalid key-stickers onto
machines. That might just create a furore over the whole licensing business.
Will - 27 Feb 2007 08:43 GMT
one reason they would be reluctant to do this is that it would
> expose the fact that many OEMs are putting invalid key-stickers onto
> machines. That might just create a furore over the whole licensing business.

And you don't think people are already furious?

In my opinion, Microsoft is making a simple thing very complicated by making
it very mysterious.   The principal that one license should appear on one
machine is easy for any honest person to accept.   The way to enforce
licenses is to give honest people the tools they need to enforce the
license.   If I buy a retail product and activate it on my computer, then
find out two weeks later that someone else is trying to grab my product key
and use it to activate their computer, I would surely forbid the transfer.
The problems are that:

1) Microsoft gives us no way to know that someone else is stealing our
licenses.

2) Microsoft punishes the buyer for the theft by forcing the buyer to make
phone calls to manually activate his own license (again).

3) Microsoft tries to make up for all of these duplicate activations by
producing products with ever smaller numbers of activations.   It's just
ridiculous and unfair.

The way I would like it to work is that I have unlimited activations for the
software, and I can transfer it between machines unlimited numbers of times.
BUT, the license is registered on Microsoft's servers, and activating a
license on any machine requires me to explicitly cancel the previous
activation.    That in turn should send an e-mail to the originally
registered owner asking for confirmation that it is okay to cancel that old
license.

A scheme like the above allows the user to self-manage his own license
without resorting to draconian schemes.   And very importantly it gives the
original licensee perfect insight into whether someone else is trying to use
his product key.   The original licensee could forbid transfers to any new
machine, thus largely protecting Microsoft (and the user) from stolen
activations.

The above scheme also protects the licensee from innocent mistakes within
the same company, where the product key may have inadvertently been used on
two machines.

Instead Microsoft is resorting to the most anti-consumer and completely
unfair restrictions on numbers of activations, numbers of transfers, etc.
All of this forces people to buy the software two or three times for one
computer if they have enough hardware expansions or failures, which is
completely unfair and just maddening.  And very importantly: these kinds of
draconian measures do NOT build consumer loyalty towards licensing
provisions.   Microsoft will never win against piracy unless it can recruit
the consumer to act on its behalf.   That requires fairness and empowerment,
and the current situation has very little of either.

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Wesley Vogel - 25 Feb 2007 17:43 GMT
Caveat emptor.

Don't buy software from a guy selling it out of the trunk of his car or out
of his overcoat.

Purchase software like you would anything else, from a reputable retailer,
not an "unknown vendor".

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> Does Microsoft maintain a site where you can input a product key and see
> how many times it has been activated?    It would help me tremendously
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> Will
 
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