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1394 not recoginizing video camera
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khickenbottom - 22 Sep 2004 01:51 GMT I have a DVD burner and my digital video camera hooked up to 1394 jacks. Now the computer won't recognize the video camera. I have Service Pack 2 loaded, which I thought had some fixes for that problem but it's not working. I've tried deleting and reinstalling drivers but no luck. Anyone run into this problem or know of a solution.
Graham Hughes - 23 Sep 2004 10:04 GMT Check in the security section to ensure the firewall is not blocking the firewire port.
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> I have a DVD burner and my digital video camera hooked up > to 1394 jacks. Now the computer won't recognize the video > camera. I have Service Pack 2 loaded, which I thought had > some fixes for that problem but it's not working. I've > tried deleting and reinstalling drivers but no luck. > Anyone run into this problem or know of a solution. Treeman - 08 Mar 2005 01:20 GMT Graham Hughes Wrote:
> Check in the security section to ensure the firewall is not blocking > the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > tried deleting and reinstalling drivers but no luck. > Anyone run into this problem or know of a solution.- Hey Graham, which ports on the firewall does firewire use, and how do you open the ports? Treeman
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LONE5RANGER - 30 Sep 2004 22:23 GMT Sony DCR-TRV820 will not connect
I have a DCR-TRV Camcorder which I had been using to capture Video for editing on a Gateway Essentials 500, Window 98SE before upgrading my editing Software up to Videowave 5. The reason I put this in is very important. Because before purchasing a Dell Dimension 2350 desktop with Windows XP, the Camcorder and Computer worked Fine! Using the 1394 firewire and Sony Camcorder connected to the Dell Desktop I was unable to connect to the Camcorder. Here is a “Glitch” to be explained later. After almost a hundred hours trying to solve the problem I’m finally there. Sony, Dell, Microsoft support leaves “a lot to be desired” and I’m still waiting on a Call back from Dell! After reading all of the forums I’m not going to be very long explaining this because it seems as if you all are pretty much on track. 1. When I first connected the Camcorder to the Computer a pop up Window appeared and it gave me 2 options. 1. Movie Maker(Windows can always run this program). And Option #2(take no action). I chose option #2 (take no action). and that Window has not appeared again until just a few minutes ago. 2. My problem was Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller Drivers. In my Dimension Desktop “Device Manger” I only had 2: 1394BUS.SYS OHCI1394.SYS 3. Go to this Website for further information required for DV Camcorder and Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller Drivers for your Windows XP to recognize. http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/ieee-1394_support.html 3. According to ramelectronics 5 drivers are required: The files you need are: 1394BUS.SYS DVCAM.INF DVCAM.SYS OHCI1394.SYS Usb001.exe (I did not find this driver: maybe it was combined with another Driver file) Sometimes manufacturers rename “files” and “Drivers” Finally this is what I did: 1. Download drivers from ramelectronics website on to floppy. Remove Floppy 2. With computer on Uninstall “Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller” in the “Device Manger” Window 3. Turn Computer “Off” and physically remove card 4. Turn computer on and “Verified” the “Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller” was uninstalled in the “DEVICE MANAGER” and shut off computer 5. Physically reinstall IEEE 1394 PCI CARD in a different PCI SLOT 6. Turned on COMPUTER and went to Device Manager. Windows had already installed the Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller Drivers. Note: “everything that was done has been done as “Administrator” by the time I turned the COMPUTER ON and LOGGED ON as ADMINSTRATOR the 1394 Card and DRIVERS had already Been “Installed” In the “Device Manager” 7. I checked Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller Drivers installed: Here are the Driver Names of the Files Installed C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\1394bus.sys C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\arp.1394.sys C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\enum1394.sys C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\nicsys1394.sys C:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\ohci1394.sys
8. I then connected the Camera and then the same thing happened as before “My Software nor Windows saw the Sony Camcorder. 9. Unplugged the firewire from the computer 10. I then went back to the “Device Manager” checked Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller and “Choosing” UPDATE…BROWSE….Drive A(the floppy disk). 11. This is tricky. You will see one “file or folder” in the Windows Dialog Box and another in File Open Box, Maneuver through trying to get those files to download…..it probably won’t be easy but stay here on steps 10 and 11 until you see those files download. I did. And when it all stopped about 5 seconds. 12. I dragged back over to my Sony DCR-TRV820 and plugged the firewire in and turned the CAMERA ON: 13. The speakers went….. DUNG….BING…..BONG 14. I returned to the computer and There was two messages a “Window” whos message said: Record Video(using Windows Movie Maker) Take no action………….I say Do not choose this option 15. Let Windows Movie Maker download a little clip and close it out 16. Now I have my camera and computer working
Never! Never! Give up Sir Winston Churchill
And thanks to all of you on these forums you have helped me a lot if I can be of any assistance? Hit me back here
“Glitch” LET movie maker run your first Clip
1. Record Video(using Windows Movie Maker) 2. Take no action………….Do not choose this option
> I have a DVD burner and my digital video camera hooked up > to 1394 jacks. Now the computer won't recognize the video > camera. I have Service Pack 2 loaded, which I thought had > some fixes for that problem but it's not working. I've > tried deleting and reinstalling drivers but no luck. > Anyone run into this problem or know of a solution. Kristine - 16 Oct 2004 07:55 GMT I really would like to try the method you described. I've had this problem for a year, though the circumstances might be slightly different in that I had a ! with the IEEE 1394 before I had camera detection problems. My question is:
Do these directions apply to a system with Service Pack 2??
Thanks so much!
> Sony DCR-TRV820 will not connect > [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] > 15. Let Windows Movie Maker download a little clip and close it out > 16. Now I have my camera and computer working Kristine - 17 Oct 2004 03:55 GMT In regards to step 10 and 11, exactly how did you do that? I can't get my computer to download a driver they deem "unrelated" to the hardware. Please help!!
> Sony DCR-TRV820 will not connect > [quoted text clipped - 99 lines] > > tried deleting and reinstalling drivers but no luck. > > Anyone run into this problem or know of a solution. Pam - 11 Apr 2005 18:01 GMT RE: the files needed. I tried to download them off of Ram Electronics. They were no longer available. Could you email them to me Lone5Ranger?
> Sony DCR-TRV820 will not connect > [quoted text clipped - 99 lines] > > tried deleting and reinstalling drivers but no luck. > > Anyone run into this problem or know of a solution. SEMA - 21 Apr 2005 19:22 GMT Hi All, especially LONE5RANGER and Pam:
Pam, I've got the link to the files you wanted (the ones LONE5RANGER said. I don't know if you've already gotten them from him. it is a matter of misspelling on the ramelectronics site (capitalization). so klick the link here:
http://www.ramelectronics.net/download/IEEE1394/
I downloaded the files just know, all of them.
And Also THAAAAAAAAANKKKKSS ALOT to the lone ranger (LONE5RANGER) for the info. really awesome. but i haven't tried it all yet!
> RE: the files needed. I tried to download them off of Ram Electronics. They > were no longer available. Could you email them to me Lone5Ranger? [quoted text clipped - 102 lines] > > > tried deleting and reinstalling drivers but no luck. > > > Anyone run into this problem or know of a solution. SEMA - 21 Apr 2005 20:30 GMT Hi All, especially LONE5RANGER and Pam:
Pam, I've got the link to the files you wanted (the ones LONE5RANGER said. I don't know if you've already gotten them from him. it is a matter of misspelling on the ramelectronics site (capitalization). so klick the link here:
http://www.ramelectronics.net/download/IEEE1394/
I downloaded the files just know, all of them.
And Also THAAAAAAAAANKKKKSS ALOT to the lone ranger (LONE5RANGER) for the info. really awesome. but i haven't tried it all yet!
> RE: the files needed. I tried to download them off of Ram Electronics. They > were no longer available. Could you email them to me Lone5Ranger? [quoted text clipped - 102 lines] > > > tried deleting and reinstalling drivers but no luck. > > > Anyone run into this problem or know of a solution. LONE5RANGER - 01 Oct 2004 04:27 GMT Hello Khickenbottom Disregard the reply that I sent you. this message is only for those “whose Sony camcorders was not recognized by Windows” upon installation. However, I did see some information on the Microsoft website describing your problem check out this link. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;281286 Have a nice day Lone5Ranger
> I have a DVD burner and my digital video camera hooked up > to 1394 jacks. Now the computer won't recognize the video > camera. I have Service Pack 2 loaded, which I thought had > some fixes for that problem but it's not working. I've > tried deleting and reinstalling drivers but no luck. > Anyone run into this problem or know of a solution. Les - 07 Mar 2005 02:21 GMT LONE5RANGER,
I am having no success whatever getting my firewire adapter(s) to recogognize my Sony DCR-PC1 DV camera.
I have tried all of the fixes that I have seen on other boards/forums - backing down to XP SP1 1394 drivers - without success. I have tried a new cable and two diferent 1394 adapters - one with VIA chipset and the other with TI. No matter what I do, my camera is not recognized. I have no other Firewire device to connect, but my camera worked fine on my older systme with a dedicated DV Capture card (Canopus).
The VIA chipset adapter that I used was a USB/1394 combo adapter on which the USB ports worked fine (not with my camera, which only has 1394 I/O).
I am running WinXP SP2 (except for the down graded 1394 drivers).
Any suggestion you might have would be much appreciated.
> Hello Khickenbottom > Disregard the reply that I sent you. this message is only for those [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > tried deleting and reinstalling drivers but no luck. > > Anyone run into this problem or know of a solution. Les - 07 Mar 2005 04:09 GMT LONE5RANGER,
I am hoping you might have some suggestions for me regarding my inability to connect my Sony DVR-PC1 camera via 1394 adapter under WinXP. It is just never recognized as being connected.
I have researched all the forums and boards, and tried everything that others have had success with, to no avail.
I am running WinXP SP2. I have tried 2 different known good DV cables, 2 newly purchased 1394 adapter cards - one VIA based, the other TI based - I have backed the 1394 drivers down to XP SP1 versions (ensuring that they are not automatically updated to SP2 drivers upon boot). The VIA-based adapter was a USB/1394 combo, on which the USB ports worked fine. In Device Manager, the adpaters show up as being installed and working properly.
I am at my wit's end.
My DV camera worked fine on my now obsolete and cannibalized W2K system with a dedicated DV capture card (Canopus).
I followed your link above to the RAM Electronics site, but the links to which you referred are now invalid. Besides, the 1394 info discussed on that site seemed to relate to Win98.
Any suggestions on how to proceed would be much appreciated.
> Hello Khickenbottom > Disregard the reply that I sent you. this message is only for those [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > tried deleting and reinstalling drivers but no luck. > > Anyone run into this problem or know of a solution. Les - 07 Mar 2005 04:13 GMT Sorry for the duplicate posting - I received an error message when I tried to post my 1st message indicating that an error had occured and to try posting again later.
> LONE5RANGER, > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > > tried deleting and reinstalling drivers but no luck. > > > Anyone run into this problem or know of a solution. Treeman - 07 Mar 2005 15:26 GMT -- Treeman
Les - 07 Mar 2005 18:39 GMT Treem,
Was there supposed to be text in your lats post?
Treeman - 08 Mar 2005 01:22 GMT Les Wrote:
> Treem, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Treeman > - Yes, Look at the thread above this one. Treeman
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Les - 08 Mar 2005 16:09 GMT Treeman, If you are referring to the possibility of MS XP Firewall blocking 1394 ports, in my case I have disabled XP Firewall. I use ZoneAlarm, which I also disabled for troubleshooting this 1394 connection problem.
BTW, I have logged a support call with MS. I'll share the outcome of that case.
> Les Wrote: > > Treem, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Yes, Look at the thread above this one. > Treeman Les - 07 Mar 2005 22:47 GMT OK, so now I am even further confused!
Today I brought my DV camera and Firewire cable to the office. I plugged it into a co-worker's Dell laptop 1394 port. Lo and behold, the camera is recognized.
I then checked the O/S (XP SP2), and the 1394 driver (as loaded by XP SP2).
Why do you think the operation of 1394 driver is so system dependant?
> LONE5RANGER, > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > > tried deleting and reinstalling drivers but no luck. > > > Anyone run into this problem or know of a solution. Les - 07 Mar 2005 23:41 GMT I am grasping at straws here, but could this knowledgebase article relate to the non-recoginition of 1394-connected DV cams? What I'm asking is if the speed being reset to S100 could impact device recognition on a 1394 port? Or does that only have effect after connection with the device is established?
KB885222 Performance of 1394 devices may decrease after you install Windows XP Service Pack 2 SYMPTOMS After you update your computer to Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2), the performance of your 1394a or 1394b FireWire devices may be greatly decreased. A digital camera that uses S400 speed is an example of such a device.
This problem occurs if you connect a 1394a or 1394b FireWire device to a 1394b port. This problem occurs because Windows XP SP2 changes 1394b ports to S100 speed when you upgrade.
> OK, so now I am even further confused! > [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > > > tried deleting and reinstalling drivers but no luck. > > > > Anyone run into this problem or know of a solution. Treeman - 12 Apr 2005 03:30 GMT SNIP[/QUOTE Wrote:
> O.K. Here's the deal; if you have Sp2 installed you _have_ to block SP2 > from re-loading it's drivers by renaming a folder called SP2.cab to [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Reboot. > Treeman
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Treeman - 23 Apr 2005 16:11 GMT Update[/QUOTE Wrote:
> Sorry about the renaming thing with the SP2.cab folder. > This is the actual scenario; [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Reboot. > Treeman
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rob mafia - 21 Jun 2005 09:55 GMT (sorry, i'm a n00b)
i seem to have the identical problem (new dcr-pc1 dv cam, xp with sp2, can't get cam to register via 1394, going insane).
are you saying that the solution is to overwrite certain sp2 files/drivers with the respective sp1 files?
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Treeman - 21 Jun 2005 17:05 GMT Yes Rob, AKA, the post above yours from me. And I haven't a clue as to what's going on with the server! Parsin text, duplicate postings all around. What a mess! Best, Treema
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rob mafia - 21 Jun 2005 20:23 GMT sweet, thanks.
i'll give this a try later tonight, and post an update... which will probably be another question about something i missed, can't find, etc. ha.
but it's nice to know that i wasn't alone with this problem, and that a solution exists.
again, thanks for the info/help.
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Graham Hughes - 21 Jun 2005 23:45 GMT There is now an SP2 fix from MS worth trying, see my page here http://www.myvideoproblems.co.uk/ProblemPages/CamNotWorkingUnderSP2.htm
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> Yes Rob, > AKA, the post above yours from me. > And I haven't a clue as to what's going on with the server! Parsing > text, duplicate postings all around. What a mess! > Best, > Treeman rob mafia - 22 Jun 2005 08:43 GMT Graham Hughes Wrote:
> There is now an SP2 fix from MS worth trying, see my page here > http://tinyurl.com/cauwx [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > www.simplydv.com > [/i][/color] thanks for the help, but it was to no avail
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rob mafia - 22 Jun 2005 08:42 GMT Treeman Wrote:
> Yes Rob, > AKA, the post above yours from me. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ any idea where i can find these sp1 files:
enum1394.sys is in C:\windows\system32\drivers
MSDV.sys is in windows\system32\Drivers & \system32\dllcache
i found the other 4, but don't see these listed for downloa anywhere..
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rob mafia - 22 Jun 2005 09:47 GMT i can't seem to overwrite anything - the files automatically revert bac to the sp2 type. even with the sp2.cab renamed and in safe mode.
any ideas? should i just switch from xp home w/sp2 to xp pro with n service packs
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Graham Hughes - 22 Jun 2005 19:32 GMT The fix from MS on my site does exactly what you are trying to do manualy, so if the fix didn't work, I doubt doing it manually will, but it's worth trying and seeing the result
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> i can't seem to overwrite anything - the files automatically revert back > to the sp2 type. even with the sp2.cab renamed and in safe mode. > > any ideas? should i just switch from xp home w/sp2 to xp pro with no > service packs? rob mafia - 23 Jun 2005 02:46 GMT you're referring to "windowsxp-kb893008-x86-enu-" right?
if so, yeah, doesn't seem to be working for me. now i'm just angry. ha.
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rob mafia - 23 Jun 2005 06:18 GMT hmm...
this should work on a comp with xp pro (old version with no service packs), right?
i moved everything (card/cam/programs) to my roomie's comp, and it wouldn't register there, either.
could the card be defective, and still show up in the device manager as working properly?
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Graham Hughes - 24 Jun 2005 09:23 GMT Should do, so card could be at fault, maybe cable, firewire port on camcorder, see these pages as well. http://www.myvideoproblems.co.uk/ProblemPages/CannotCapture.htm and optimising my pc for video capture.
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> hmm... > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > could the card be defective, and still show up in the device manager as > working properly? rob mafia - 24 Jun 2005 18:01 GMT yeah, same conclusion i came to. i know the cable and camcorder are working, i'm thinking the card/firewire ports on card are defective.
i'm hoping i can make it to the computer store before it closes to test the card/get a new one.
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rob mafia - 25 Jun 2005 06:12 GMT ****ing hell, i hate this stupid ****ing camera/card/xp/everything.
new card. same problem. cam/cable work everywhere but in my apartment. i doubt anyone reads this/gives a ****, but i'll probably be shooting the cam tomorrow with a .308 pss. **** this *******ized piece of ****.
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rob mafia - 25 Jun 2005 06:42 GMT holy hell. i had no idea so many people had the same problem (just rea 3543253754 threads about the same thing). i guess i'll just sell th cam and get a newer one (panasonic, this time), and see if it's still fubar'd situation.
thanks for all the advice
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Graham Hughes - 26 Jun 2005 15:47 GMT Well just so you know, Sopny appear to be using odd firmaware in some of their cams, the HC42 is well documented to not be working with Macs, some Panasonic models have a problem with SP2 due to another problem, but only PAL models. Perhaps mail me off list with all the details of the cam and pc and all the things you have done to try to solve the problem, and as much background info as you can, as in if it did work at one stage, etc etc...
Graham
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> holy hell. i had no idea so many people had the same problem (just read > 3543253754 threads about the same thing). i guess i'll just sell the > cam and get a newer one (panasonic, this time), and see if it's still a > fubar'd situation. > > thanks for all the advice. rob mafia - 27 Jun 2005 00:05 GMT sure...
what's your email address?
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rob mafia - 27 Jun 2005 01:08 GMT and do you know of this same issue being a problem with sony's dcr-hc21 or panasonic's pv-gs19, by any chance?
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Graham Hughes - 28 Jun 2005 21:42 GMT use the link to my video problems and then the contact me button.
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> sure... > > what's your email address?
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