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WMV to AVI or MPG: doesn't work.
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Terry Pinnell - 21 Sep 2005 09:56 GMT I'm trialing the 'WMV to AVI MPEG DVD WMV Converter' V1.2.2 from Allok Soft. But so far I have not been able to succeed with it.
I'm trying to convert a 3.9 MB WMV file. It's accessible here, for a few days anyway (I'm at the limit of my free web space!): http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/Images/LED-Sequencer4MB.wmv
It's one of my first I've made with MS Windows Movie Maker 2.0. (Content is irrelevant; it's for discussion in one of the specialist electronics newsgroups.) The WMV plays fine in WMP, IrfanView, Nero ShowTime, Real Player, and PowerDVD.
The reason I'm trying to convert it anyway is that one person in the electronics group said the WMV wouldn't play in his WMP. No idea why (surely that's the 'native' format for WMP?), but I thought I'd offer him an AVI and MPG as well.
But after conversion to either AVI or MPG there are a variety of errors.
For example, converting to MPG, I open the WMV, then: For Output Format I select MPEG-II. I leave other settings at their defaults.
After clicking Convert, I get a file led-sequencer4mb_tompeg2.mpg
If I play this (it's associated with WMP9 here) the 'spinning' text effect is 'frozen'. If I choose MPEG-I instead, I get some of the spinning back, but it's still not faithful to the original. Not sure if the proportions are right either.
For AVI, leaving the settings at their defaults, it's much worse. Using the defaults, the conversion plainly doesn't work because it's too fast and the file is a mere 127 KB. Clicking it to play it in WMP fails to run it, and I get I get a message about an unexpected error. In Quicktime, nothing at all happens.
I repeated that with various different settings for the AVI. But frankly I don't have a clue about choosing from those long lists of codecs. So far I haven't found one, but I'm hoping that there is a combination there that will work that someone here can suggest please?
BTW, is this program intended only for those who are deep into the technicalities of video? Is there an alternative (ideally freeware!) that a mere end-user can get results with?
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Cari (MS-MVP) - 21 Sep 2005 18:03 GMT I never got it to work correctly. I use TEMPEnc, WinDVD Creator or PowerDirector... or even VideoWave (Roxio) if everything else fails!
Hang on, I'll go get it, re-encode it and post a link for you.
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> I'm trialing the 'WMV to AVI MPEG DVD WMV Converter' V1.2.2 from Allok > Soft. But so far I have not been able to succeed with it. [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > technicalities of video? Is there an alternative (ideally freeware!) > that a mere end-user can get results with? Cari (MS-MVP) - 21 Sep 2005 18:37 GMT http://s11.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=21CISFQ30NX4G309DS0TMG2SE1
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> I'm trialing the 'WMV to AVI MPEG DVD WMV Converter' V1.2.2 from Allok > Soft. But so far I have not been able to succeed with it. [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > technicalities of video? Is there an alternative (ideally freeware!) > that a mere end-user can get results with? Terry Pinnell - 21 Sep 2005 19:57 GMT "Cari \(MS-MVP\)" <Newsgroups1@coribright.com> wrote:
>http://s11.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=21CISFQ30NX4G309DS0TMG2SE1 Very kind of you, Cari, thank you. Duly downloaded. And I'll investigate those alternative converters.
To get that large MPG back down close to the WMV size of 4MB presumably I have to go through a resizing step somewhere? As you probably saw, it's for web upload, and is only a casual one-off. It was viewable for the purpose intended at 4MB (after trimming I have it to 3.7 MB), so I don't need a large version. And it's to occupy my stretched free web space <g>.
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Cari (MS-MVP) - 22 Sep 2005 22:03 GMT It's not going to be much smaller if it's an MPEG.
The www.yousendit.com service is up to 25 downloads and 7 days (whichever comes first).... I use them very frequently, for all sorts of files.
I'd personally leave the website hosting the WMV and if they need a larger version or something not WMV, then use the yousendit service since it's free.
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> "Cari \(MS-MVP\)" <Newsgroups1@coribright.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > to 3.7 MB), so I don't need a large version. And it's to occupy my > stretched free web space <g>. Terry Pinnell - 23 Sep 2005 10:47 GMT "Cari \(MS-MVP\)" <Newsgroups1@coribright.com> wrote:
>It's not going to be much smaller if it's an MPEG. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >version or something not WMV, then use the yousendit service since it's >free. Thanks, good idea, will do. But how do you use it the way *you* did, namely post me a link? It seems to be asking me for the recipient's email address?
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Cari (MS-MVP) - 24 Sep 2005 03:53 GMT Hint: Send the email to yourself!!!
Then you can send an email with the link to more than one person when it's emailed you with the link.
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> "Cari \(MS-MVP\)" <Newsgroups1@coribright.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > namely post me a link? It seems to be asking me for the recipient's > email address? Terry Pinnell - 28 Sep 2005 20:37 GMT "Cari \(MS-MVP\)" <Newsgroups1@coribright.com> wrote:
>Hint: Send the email to yourself!!! > >Then you can send an email with the link to more than one person when it's >emailed you with the link. Great, thanks a lot! Just sent first 7MB file that way, and seems to have gone OK. Takes the pressure off my 50MB free web space from Pipex.
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Terry Pinnell - 29 Sep 2005 13:59 GMT "Cari \(MS-MVP\)" <Newsgroups1@coribright.com> wrote:
>http://s11.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=21CISFQ30NX4G309DS0TMG2SE1 Which of the converters that you mentioned did you use to make that one please?
I started with this rather smaller WMV http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2B4ZCTXWWQS952PV5EKGKPQ563 and then used 'WMV to AVI MPEG DVD WMV Converter' (!) to convert it to this MPG http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3JAP5RZMCVI4D3HORP4GH3S29U
(I had to cheat, as the trial version of that clumsily-titled program only converts 50% of the source; so I simply first 'doubled it up' in Moviemaker.)
However, I get some strange behaviour when I play the MPG here. Mainly in WMP9, but also in various other players like IrfanView Nero ShowTime, RealPlayer, and QuickTime. It has odd corruptions, jumps and jerks; and on one occasion seemed to lose the video-to-audio sync. Apart from not being faithful to the original WMV, I'm baffled as to why it should display *different* flaws, not only in different players but also on different occasions in the *same* player! How can that be possible? (And I swear I've had nothing stronger than an Earl Grey tea with my lunch <g>.)
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Terry Pinnell - 29 Sep 2005 14:52 GMT >"Cari \(MS-MVP\)" <Newsgroups1@coribright.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >that be possible? (And I swear I've had nothing stronger than an Earl >Grey tea with my lunch <g>.) I made a new conversion using a different program, Xilisoft Converter, and this one seems OK. http://s46.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=12AT21A7DXNFK3TUG4UIHQ310T
So presumably the flaws were down to WMV...Converter, and/or my failure to choose the 'right' settings? I left them at the values already present Width/Height:default, Frame rate: default; Audio bitrate 377 kbs; video bitrate 311 kbs. The only one of those that looks odd to me is the audio bitrate. According to AVIcodec, the WMV source audio bitrate is 722 KB. But after trying another conversion with that figure entered, if anything the MPG was worse.
I think I'll simply forget about WMV...Converter!
 Signature Terry, West Sussex, UK
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