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SP3 won't install due to kernel change - tune up utilities

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Big Al - 10 May 2008 15:28 GMT
Here is a possible warning to help some readers.
If trying to load SP3 and you get an error saying it can't load due to a
core file (kernel) being changed.
See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/327101
It gives choices, none of which worked in our case.  But did make us
stumble onto the fix.
Seems Tune Up Utilities 2008 can change your startup in boot.ini to use
TUKernel.exe not Kernel.exe.  Something about a new splash screen etc.
SP3 does not like this and aborts.
So if anyone else has this issue read the lower part of this form thread
at post #8.
http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/sp3-fails-to-d-l-and-install-t197385.html
Homer J. Simpson - 10 May 2008 15:51 GMT
> Here is a possible warning to help some readers.
> If trying to load SP3 and you get an error saying it can't load due to a
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> at post #8.
> http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/sp3-fails-to-d-l-and-install-t197385.html

I think it goes without saying that if you use some utility that messes with
system files, you're essentially taking your life into your own hands.

Can't say I'm surprised SP3 complains.
Big Al - 10 May 2008 16:02 GMT
>> Here is a possible warning to help some readers.
>> If trying to load SP3 and you get an error saying it can't load due to a
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Can't say I'm surprised SP3 complains.

I guess the big point is, that TuneUP is a good program in general.
Granted we can argue that the registry cleaning tool is unnecessary and
I'll also grant that some of the 'style' suggestions are lame, but up
front the program is 'okay'.    But what a user does not know is how it
achieves those ends, and evidently replacing your kernel is one of them.
   Innocents sent to slaughter by the lions huh.
3c273 - 12 May 2008 16:55 GMT
> I think it goes without saying that if you use some utility that messes with
> system files, you're essentially taking your life into your own hands.

Yes, you are going to die if you mess with your system files.
</sarcasm>
Louis
Plato - 13 May 2008 09:17 GMT
> I think it goes without saying that if you use some utility that messes with
> system files, you're essentially taking your life into your own hands.

A PC is NOT your life. Learn to live without your PC.

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Homer J. Simpson - 17 May 2008 00:45 GMT
>> I think it goes without saying that if you use some utility that messes
>> with
>> system files, you're essentially taking your life into your own hands.
>
> A PC is NOT your life. Learn to live without your PC.

Oh, I have to add a disclaimer now that my posts shouldn't be taken
literally?

I guess I missed the memo.
Mark - 10 May 2008 15:53 GMT
I had that same problem, easy fix though. When Tune up changes the boot
screen it changes the kernel and that's what you boot to but it creates a
backup without the changed kernel. So I just removed the entry in boot.ini
that didn't have the words "TuneUP Backup" in it and removed the words
"TuneUP Backup" from the other entry and then installed SP3.

So I went from this:

[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Media Center
Edition" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect /TUTag=G9F1HW /Kernel=TUKernel.exe
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Media Center Edition
(TuneUp Backup)" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect /TUTag=G9F1HW-BAK

TO this:

[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Media Center
Edition" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect /TUTag=G9F1HW-BAK

Mark

> Here is a possible warning to help some readers.
> If trying to load SP3 and you get an error saying it can't load due to a
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> at post #8.
> http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/sp3-fails-to-d-l-and-install-t197385.html
Big Al - 12 May 2008 17:00 GMT
Like 90% of these problems, the fix is 3 minutes, but finding the
problem to fix it, is 3 weeks.  :-)

> I had that same problem, easy fix though. When Tune up changes the boot
> screen it changes the kernel and that's what you boot to but it creates
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>> thread at post #8.
>> http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/sp3-fails-to-d-l-and-install-t197385.html
 
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