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stosti - 11 May 2008 12:42 GMT
Morning,

After applying SP3 to a fresh install of XP Pro SP2 Microsoft update no
longer worked correctly.  The updates download and try to install but fail.  
I found the problem discribed on a tech net forum.  It existed in SP3 RC3.  
Microsoft says they corrected the issue.  i assure you they did not.  The SP3
RC3 fix still works.  Once you do the following all is well again.  regsvr32
wups2.dll

This is no good.

Regards,
Scott
Alias - 11 May 2008 12:52 GMT
> Morning,
>
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> Regards,
> Scott

How did you apply SP3, through Windows Updates or with the .iso burned
to a CD?

Alias
stosti - 11 May 2008 12:59 GMT
Windows updates

> > Morning,
> >
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>
> Alias
Alias - 11 May 2008 13:26 GMT
> Windows updates

I'm going to try it this afternoon with the .iso burned to a CD and
after a fresh install of XP SP2. Wish me luck ;-)

Alias

>>> Morning,
>>>
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>> Alias
Zo - 11 May 2008 18:34 GMT
stosti expressed precisely :
> Windows updates
>
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>> Alias

Downloaded the full install exe (316MB)file from
here:http://www.ghacks.net/2008/04/28/official-windows-xp-service-pack-3-download-links/
(still on dialup so it took approx 22 hours to complete) but I'd rather
get it that way then going the update service route and have to disable
my protection while I'm on line for that long period of time and have
something go wrong doing the install process and have my system get all
screwed up.

Closed all running processess as instructed and installed.  The install
went flawlessly.  I haven't notice any changes since the install.  I
then went to MS Update Service and after the normal scanning process,
there were no updates shown to download, so the install appears to have
been completed successfully - thank goodness :-)

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Renegade - 11 May 2008 13:15 GMT
No problem here
> Morning,
>
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> Regards,
> Scott
stosti - 11 May 2008 13:36 GMT
Interesting...  From what I read on the web this is the third version of SP3.
I'm not going to try it again until June...  I don't remember there being a
SP issue in a long time.  i hope this is not the beginning of a trend.

> No problem here
> > Morning,
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> > Regards,
> > Scott
Big Al - 11 May 2008 13:57 GMT
> Interesting...  From what I read on the web this is the third version of SP3.
>  I'm not going to try it again until June...  I don't remember there being a
> SP issue in a long time.  i hope this is not the beginning of a trend.

There is no 3rd version of SP3.   RC3 (if you call that the 3rd) is the
3rd release of the BETA, but SP3 final that was supposed to be for the
public is the only release.   SP3 #5511 was never changed after it was
released, just held up for a week.   Updates to the program that it
screwed up were issued but SP3 final is SP3 final.

I did a reload and update using the standalone .exe SP3 file.   No
update issues.  Windows Defender downloads updates almost daily.
stosti - 11 May 2008 14:05 GMT
The issue is operating system files not defender or office.  IE 7.0 and a
couple of updates would not run.  Look it up at TechNet.  Search on "Windows
Update fails after installing SP3 (regsvr32 wups2.dll)".

> > Interesting...  From what I read on the web this is the third version of SP3.
> >  I'm not going to try it again until June...  I don't remember there being a
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> I did a reload and update using the standalone .exe SP3 file.   No
> update issues.  Windows Defender downloads updates almost daily.
Sgt - 11 May 2008 14:17 GMT
No problems here. Through WU site download.
> The issue is operating system files not defender or office.  IE 7.0 and a
> couple of updates would not run.  Look it up at TechNet.  Search on
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>> I did a reload and update using the standalone .exe SP3 file.   No
>> update issues.  Windows Defender downloads updates almost daily.
Big Al - 11 May 2008 14:57 GMT
> The issue is operating system files not defender or office.  IE 7.0 and a
> couple of updates would not run.  Look it up at TechNet.  Search on "Windows
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>> I did a reload and update using the standalone .exe SP3 file.   No
>> update issues.  Windows Defender downloads updates almost daily.

Thanks for the info.   I'll keep an eye.  I did IE7 after my SP3 so I
guess I made it through okay.   Luck of the irish (i'm not but...).
Thee Chicago Wolf - 11 May 2008 16:18 GMT
>After applying SP3 to a fresh install of XP Pro SP2 Microsoft update no
>longer worked correctly.  The updates download and try to install but fail.  
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>
>This is no good.

If you already an SP2 CD, when not create a slipstream CD using nlite
1.4.5. It's brainless and when you install XP from scratch, it'll
already be at SP3 level, no worries, no crazy messages.

- Thee Chicago Wolf
Colin Barnhorst - 11 May 2008 16:35 GMT
Use the free MS support for SP3 issues:
https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gprid=522131

> Morning,
>
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> Regards,
> Scott
Shenan Stanley - 11 May 2008 17:31 GMT
> After applying SP3 to a fresh install of XP Pro SP2 Microsoft
> update no longer worked correctly.  The updates download and try to
> install but fail. I found the problem discribed on a tech net
> forum.  It existed in SP3 RC3. Microsoft says they corrected the
> issue.  i assure you they did not.  The SP3 RC3 fix still works.
> Once you do the following all is well again.  regsvr32 wups2.dll

There was an RC3?
RC1, yes.
RC2, yes.
RC2 Refresh, yes.
I recall no RC3.

It is unlikely SP3 will go through any further changes.  It has been
released - that's pretty much it.

I have not seen this issue on any of the couple of hundred machines I
installed upon - however - I have answered the question here a couple dozen
times.  Sometimes the end user has to perform the entire KB article you are
actually referencing without doing so.

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PA Bear [MS MVP] - 11 May 2008 19:33 GMT
Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update, from Microsoft
Update, or by using Automatic Updates after you repair a Windows XP
installation:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144

NB: Also applies to clean installs, upgrade installs, and Recovery installs.
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> Morning,
>
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> Regards,
> Scott
Mike C - 13 May 2008 22:53 GMT
I'm not sure I know what you mean by "once you do the following all is well
again regsvr32 wups2.dll".  I'm having the same problem as you did but don't
know what i'm supposed to do WITH those two files... Do I open 'Run' and type
them in?

> Morning,
>
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> Regards,
> Scott
Colin Barnhorst - 13 May 2008 23:16 GMT
"regsvr32 wups2.dll" sounds like you are supposed to register the wups2.dll
using the regsvr32 command.

> I'm not sure I know what you mean by "once you do the following all is
> well
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>> Regards,
>> Scott
Shenan Stanley - 13 May 2008 23:17 GMT
> I'm not sure I know what you mean by "once you do the following all
> is well again regsvr32 wups2.dll".  I'm having the same problem as
> you did but don't know what i'm supposed to do WITH those two
> files... Do I open 'Run' and type them in

Ignore the title...

Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update,
from Microsoft Update, or by using Automatic Updates after
you repair a Windows XP installation
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144

(Try it even if you did a clean, not repair, installation.)
(Try it even if you performed some sort of restore - not repair install.)
(Try it even if you did an upgrade installation.)

Do all suggested methods.

It will 'walk you through' what you need to do.

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Mike C - 13 May 2008 23:45 GMT
Thanx Shenan... I'll start trying them now

> > I'm not sure I know what you mean by "once you do the following all
> > is well again regsvr32 wups2.dll".  I'm having the same problem as
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>
> It will 'walk you through' what you need to do.
Mike C - 13 May 2008 23:54 GMT
Shenan - FYI, as soon as I registered the wups2.dll file, updates began
installing again!  thanx for helping me out on this.  There's a little spot
in 'Mike Heaven' set aside for ya!

> > I'm not sure I know what you mean by "once you do the following all
> > is well again regsvr32 wups2.dll".  I'm having the same problem as
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> It will 'walk you through' what you need to do.
 
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