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Windows Forum / Windows XP / General Topics 1 / May 2008Slipstreaming WinXP with SP3
Hello All, Is it possible to slipstream (i.e. combining) WinXP original with SP3? Related info on combining WinXP original (Or SP1) with SP2: see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/894947/ see http://www.helpwithwindows.com/WindowsXP/winxp-sp2-bootcd.html I haven't upgraded to SP3 as of yet. I'm waiting to see if any major issues. I know it hasn't been long since SP3 has been release, however I thought that I'd ask the question since it removes all of the online updates from SP2 to SP3. I'm thinking about re-configuring my system, so a lot of time would be saved. TIA!  SignatureRegards, Greg Strong > Hello All, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > updates from SP2 to SP3. I'm thinking about re-configuring my system, so > a lot of time would be saved. TIA! nlite is a program that will do it. http://www.lancelhoff.com/2008/03/12/how-to-slipstream-service-pack-3-into-windo ws-xp/ Google 'slipstream SP3' you will get tons of links. Quite a few refer to program A or program B. I don't know what you have. To slipstream SP3 into your CD is the same as SP2. >> ... >> Related info on combining WinXP original (Or SP1) with SP2: >> see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/894947/ >> see http://www.helpwithwindows.com/WindowsXP/winxp-sp2-bootcd.html >> >> ... >nlite is a program that will do it. >http://www.lancelhoff.com/2008/03/12/how-to-slipstream-service-pack-3-into-windo ws-xp/ > >Google 'slipstream SP3' you will get tons of links. Quite a few >refer to program A or program B. I don't know what you have. >To slipstream SP3 into your CD is the same as SP2. The only programs I used to slipstream SP2 other than WinXP bootable OS were the following: 1) Bart's Bootable Image Extractor (BBIE) per MS's KB 2) Nero to burn bootable image from combined files per MS's KB The 1st was noted in the MS KB which was my 1st link above, and the 2nd was noted in the HelpWithWindows link which was my 2nd link above. Not to difficult. Looks like the nLite combines the 2 programs into 1, and allows using Express version of Nero or other burnable ISO software which usually comes with a DVD/CD RW drive. I probably can use the same process (i.e. /integrate switch) on SP3. Thanks for the info! SignatureRegards, Greg Strong >>> ... >>> Related info on combining WinXP original (Or SP1) with SP2: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Thanks for the info! If you know the integrate command, yes that worked for me too. Nlite allows you to add KB updates, changed settings, remove windows software etc. So much more than just the integrate command. Just test before you commit! >> I probably can use the same process (i.e. /integrate switch) on SP3. >> ... >If you know the integrate command, yes that worked for me too. >Nlite allows you to add KB updates, changed settings, remove windows >software etc. So much more than just the integrate command. > >Just test before you commit! Probably and test are key operative words. :) SignatureRegards, Greg Strong >Hello All, > >Is it possible to slipstream (i.e. combining) WinXP original with SP3? Only after you have slipstreamed it with SP1... and it is recommended that you also then slipstream SP2 before slipstreaming SP3. Actually, I firmly beleive that only SP1 OR SP2 is needed before the second and final slipstream, but not both when building on XP Gold. XP SP1 + SP3 produces the same result as XP SP2 + SP3, unlike the very suspect Vista Gold slipstream product. As far as I have been able to determine, it makes no difference what the combination is on the first pass, just that there needs to be one if the user is building on XP Gold. >>Hello All, >> >>Is it possible to slipstream (i.e. combining) WinXP original with SP3? > > Only after you have slipstreamed it with SP1... and it is recommended > that you also then slipstream SP2 before slipstreaming SP3. >Only after you have slipstreamed it with SP1... and it is recommended >that you also then slipstream SP2 before slipstreaming SP3. This seems to contradict MS's own KB per http://support.microsoft.com/kb/894947/. Says original or "may also contain SP1". Has there been experience that contrary to MS's KB? TIA! SignatureRegards, Greg Strong > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Greg, You can slipstream on original XP as I have said in my previous message. The difference is also explained in that message. I have done it, and tested it. It is 100% as good as slipstreaming with either SP1a or SP2. hth >>Only after you have slipstreamed it with SP1... and it is recommended >>that you also then slipstream SP2 before slipstreaming SP3. > >This seems to contradict MS's own KB per >http://support.microsoft.com/kb/894947/. Says original or "may also >contain SP1". Has there been experience that contrary to MS's KB? TIA! 1) Read the title to that article: it's about slipstreaming SP2. 2) Read the title of this thread Mr PD43, Have you read this document: <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=68C48DAD-BC34-40BE-8D85 -6BB4F56F5110&displaylang=en#filelist> I suggest read the section which says: Deploying Windows XP SP3. This is on page 11. It says very clearly and I quote: "You can run the SP3 update package on any edition of Windows XP SP1 or SP2. For example, you can run the SP3 update package on a computer running the Windows XP Media Center Edition with SP1. The exceptions are Embedded editions for XP." The last sentence says it all. The exceptions are Embedded editions of XP. Now with all your intelligence, explain to me why there was a need to have this exception? Please note that we are not talking about running or installing SP3; we are talking about EMBEDDING sp3 using the same terminology as Microsoft but you may call it slipstreaming SP3 - it means one and the same thing for our purpose. I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you. > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >2) Read the title of this thread > > The exceptions are Embedded editions for XP." > we are talking about EMBEDDING sp3 using the same terminology as Microsoft > but you may call it slipstreaming SP3 - it means one and the same thing > for our purpose. Embedding is not slipstream. Windows XP embedded is XPe. See below. For anyone's info. An embedded system is more like a single chip rather than PC. Or it was when my son was doing EE work at the university. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP_Embedded#Windows_XP_Embedded Extract, the 2nd paragraph might explain.: Windows XP Embedded, commonly abbreviated "XPe", is a componentized version of the Professional edition of Windows XP. An original equipment manufacturer is free to choose only the components needed thereby reducing operating system footprint and also reducing attack area as compared with XP Professional. Unlike Windows CE, Microsoft's operating system for portable devices and consumer electronics, XP Embedded provides the full Windows API, and support for the full range of applications and device drivers written for Microsoft Windows. The system requirements state that XPe can run on devices with at least 32MB Compact Flash, 32MB RAM and a P-200 microprocessor. XPe was released on November 28, 2001. As of February 2007, the newest release is Windows XP Embedded SP2 Feature Pack 2007. The devices targeted for XPe have included automatic teller machines, arcade games, slot machines, cash registers, industrial robotics, thin clients, set-top boxes, network attached storage (NAS), time clocks, navigation devices, etc.[20] Custom versions of the OS can be deployed onto anything but a full-fledged PC; even though XPe supports the same hardware that XP Professional supports (x86 architecture), licensing restrictions prevent it from being deployed on to standard PCs. Answered inline. > Mr PD43, > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Now with all your intelligence, explain to me why there was a need to have > this exception? When the article talks about "Embedded editions of XP", it's referring to the version described on this MS web site. Windows Embedded. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/embedded/products/wexpe/default.mspx Here's another article you might want to look at. Windows XP Embedded http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP_Embedded#Windows_XP_Embedded > Please note that we are not talking about running or installing SP3; we are > talking about EMBEDDING sp3 using the same terminology as Microsoft but you > may call it slipstreaming SP3 - it means one and the same thing for our > purpose. Sorry, not the same terminology. > I look forward to hearing from you. > > Thank you. <snipped> Nepatsfan >Only after you have slipstreamed it with SP1... and it is recommended >that you also then slipstream SP2 before slipstreaming SP3. > > This is completely incorrect. You can slipstream XP SP3 with XP gold version . I have done it and it does install without problems. The only difference is that you need to provide the product key during installation procedure rather than have the option to defer entering it after is complete. Try it before writing anything about something you have no knowledge of. installation As far as updating of the system is concerned, yes you need to have either SP1a or SP2 before SP3 can be installed. The reason is that SP3 is not able to update certain files which are used by XP when it is running. Slipstream process does not have this problem because it is only updating the files in a folder copied from the original CD. hth Yes, slipstreaming works, but according to the MS SP3 beta team the resulting OS that installs is defective. Argue with them. >>Only after you have slipstreamed it with SP1... and it is recommended >>that you also then slipstream SP2 before slipstreaming SP3. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > the files in a folder copied from the original CD. > hth Where is your source? Provide the link please. > Yes, slipstreaming works, but according to the MS SP3 beta team the > resulting OS that installs is defective. Argue with them. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> is only updating the files in a folder copied from the original CD. >> hth The information I have I got from the SP3 team during beta testing. The SP3 beta newsgroups are closed so I cannot copy and paste from the beta ng anymore. Do as you want, but be aware of the issue. > Where is your source? Provide the link please. > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >>> only updating the files in a folder copied from the original CD. >>> hth > The information I have I got from the SP3 team during beta testing. > The SP3 beta newsgroups are closed so I cannot copy and paste from the > beta ng anymore. Do as you want, but be aware of the issue. There are no issues with embedded editions of XP3. You have failed to produce any shred of evidence in this respect. Troll !!!! Cast you eye through this NG and you'll quickly spot that Colin Barnhorst has more expertise in XP than you could even possibly dream of ! regards, Richard (ANONYMOUSE is off to the kilfile) >> The information I have I got from the SP3 team during beta testing. The >> SP3 beta newsgroups are closed so I cannot copy and paste from the beta >> ng anymore. Do as you want, but be aware of the issue. >> > There are no issues with embedded editions of XP3. You have failed to > produce any shred of evidence in this respect. RJK, Colin Barnhost has certainly more expertise than you have. I have not claimed that he is a complete idiot. What I have said that he is spreading erroneous information about slipstreaming SP3 with XP (Gold ) version. There is absolutely no need to have any service packs integrated prior to to integrating SP3 with XP (Gold). I do not wish to spend any time on this because there are people out there who wants their problems solved. Thank you for this post. >Troll !!!! > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Embedded? Did you mean to say "integrated"? That would be what I would call an XP cd that was produced at a given service pack level so that the installed OS from it did not have any overt evidence of an earlier service pack level (such as entries in Add/Remove). >> The information I have I got from the SP3 team during beta testing. The >> SP3 beta newsgroups are closed so I cannot copy and paste from the beta >> ng anymore. Do as you want, but be aware of the issue. >> > There are no issues with embedded editions of XP3. You have failed to > produce any shred of evidence in this respect. |
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