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No mouse driver for DOS in Windows XP?
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FUBARinSFO - 12 May 2008 04:40 GMT Hi:
In the course of formatting a bootable system diskette in Windows XP, I noted that no mouse.com driver was included on the resulting diskette. I was rather surprised then to find no mouse.* driver on my installed XP system, nor could I find it in the Support\Tools folder on the distribution CD.
Did I overlook something, or is no DOS mouse.com/.exe/.sys installed or available with Windows XP? If not, is there a recommended default driver/mouse.com executable people pull in to add to their boot system floppy?
Thank you in advance for your help.
-- Roy Zider
Bill in Co. - 12 May 2008 05:02 GMT I've used mouse.exe for some boot floppies, but I had it before (from my Win98SE and DOS setup). If you look for it online or on a Win9x CD, you can still find it.
> Hi: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > -- Roy Zider Pegasus (MVP) - 12 May 2008 06:32 GMT > Hi: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > -- Roy Zider If you manufactured a WinXP boot diskette then you won't need a mouse, hence there is no mouse driver.
Perhaps you explain what you expect your boot diskette to do and why you want a mouse driver.
Bill in Co. - 12 May 2008 09:22 GMT >> Hi: >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > If you manufactured a WinXP boot diskette then you won't need > a mouse, hence there is no mouse driver. IF you ONLY want to boot up, that may be true, but some of us may run some other utilities on a boot up disk, too. One such example is being able to access the NTFS volume, folders, and files *outside* of Windows, and with a File Explorer like interface, where a mouse is pretty essential. And - there are other such examples.
> Perhaps you explain what you expect your boot diskette to do > and why you want a mouse driver. Pegasus (MVP) - 12 May 2008 10:27 GMT >>> Hi: >>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> Perhaps you explain what you expect your boot diskette to do >> and why you want a mouse driver. Most DOS boot diskettes, e.g. those from www.bootdisk.com, have mouse drivers. You can also download mouse.com from this location for a limited time: http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/1312353_2nrfp/mouse.com. Type mouse /? to see the various options.
You would get far more replies if you posted your question in a Win98 newsgroup since the core of your question relates to DOS/Win9x, not to WinXP.
Colin Barnhorst - 12 May 2008 15:34 GMT There is no MSDOS in XP to run mouse.com. This is true of the entire NT branch of Windows.
> Hi: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > -- Roy Zider FUBARinSFO - 12 May 2008 20:51 GMT Colin said: "There is no MSDOS in XP to run mouse.com. This is true of the entire NT branch of Windows."
Thank you, Colin. That was the confirmation I was looking for.
I'll get the mouse driver I need from earlier versions of Windows.
Thank you all for your help.
-- Roy Zider
FUBARinSFO - 12 May 2008 21:13 GMT Oops, spoke too soon. That wasn't exactly the answer I was looking for, but it will have to do. I know there's no "MSDOS" in XP as such, so if you're going to be literal about it, there's no need for mouse.com since XP handles the mouse by itself.
However, if any of you have the occasion some time to create such a floppy yourself from XP, you will note that the Format options specify as one of the selections "Create an MS-DOS startup disk". That's MS- DOS to me, not some stripped-down XP idea of MS-DOS without a mouse driver.
Indeed, examining the files it does put on the diskette, it certainly is reminiscent to me anyway of an old-timey DOS diskette -- which is why I was surprised to find no mouse driver. When was the last time any of you saw more.com or display.sys, let alone three EGA drivers and five keyboard drivers on a boot diskette?
In any case, as I said I'll add the driver myself, or rather use a boot disk creator, and will be careful about using XP to create any boot floppies in the future. Sombody ask me for a DOS boot diskette, don't want to give them one without a mouse driver.
-- Roy Zider
Volume in drive A has no label. Volume Serial Number is 2A87-6CE1
Directory of A:\
04/07/2001 01:40 PM 9 MSDOS.SYS 05/15/2001 06:57 PM 116,736 IO.SYS 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 58,870 EGA2.CPI 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 58,753 EGA3.CPI 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 58,870 EGA.CPI 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 21,607 KEYB.COM 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 34,566 KEYBOARD.SYS 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 31,942 KEYBRD2.SYS 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 31,633 KEYBRD3.SYS 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 13,014 KEYBRD4.SYS 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 29,239 MODE.COM 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 93,040 COMMAND.COM 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 17,175 DISPLAY.SYS 05/12/2008 01:04 PM 0 AUTOEXEC.BAT 05/12/2008 01:04 PM 0 CONFIG.SYS 15 File(s) 565,454 bytes 0 Dir(s) 889,344 bytes free
Colin Barnhorst - 12 May 2008 21:26 GMT It's a legacy provision meant for situations, such as updating a BIOS, where the computer needs to boot into DOS. The real estate on a floppy is scarce so files are kept to the bare minimum. I don't think anyone ever anticipated that a user would use a mouse is such a scenario.
> Oops, spoke too soon. That wasn't exactly the answer I was looking > for, but it will have to do. I know there's no "MSDOS" in XP as such, [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > 15 File(s) 565,454 bytes > 0 Dir(s) 889,344 bytes free Terry R. - 12 May 2008 21:43 GMT The date and time was 5/12/2008 1:13 PM, and on a whim, FUBARinSFO pounded out on the keyboard:
> Oops, spoke too soon. That wasn't exactly the answer I was looking > for, but it will have to do. I know there's no "MSDOS" in XP as such, [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > 15 File(s) 565,454 bytes > 0 Dir(s) 889,344 bytes free Hi Roy,
Get what you need here: http://www.bootdisk.com/
By the way, older versions of DOS used a compressed CAB file and RAMDRIVE.SYS for a lot of the system files (chkdsk, fomat, mscdex, scandisk, etc.) since storage space was at a premium.
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Bill in Co. - 12 May 2008 21:51 GMT > The date and time was 5/12/2008 1:13 PM, and on a whim, FUBARinSFO > pounded out on the keyboard: [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > RAMDRIVE.SYS for a lot of the system files (chkdsk, fomat, mscdex, > scandisk, etc.) since storage space was at a premium. Well, not ALL of what you need. I needed *mouse.exe* (Microsoft) for some cases, and got it from an old W98SE installation.
Terry R. - 12 May 2008 23:09 GMT The date and time was 5/12/2008 1:51 PM, and on a whim, Bill in Co. pounded out on the keyboard:
>> The date and time was 5/12/2008 1:13 PM, and on a whim, FUBARinSFO >> pounded out on the keyboard: [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > Well, not ALL of what you need. I needed *mouse.exe* (Microsoft) for > some cases, and got it from an old W98SE installation. The boot floppies I have use mouse.com. Anyway, both can be found at the site: http://www.bootdisk.com/readme.htm Scroll down to "I want a mouse in DOS"
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