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Chuck Anderson - 22 May 2008 20:17 GMT
s this simply not possible over a Windows XP LAN?

I have a wireless network in my home with one remote computer.  I have
shared a folder containing installation files.  Some are zip files,
others are executables.  I want to install software on the remote
machine by opening shared .exe installation files, but when I try to
Open them, nothing happens.  I can see why this might be considered a
security risk, but is there a way to tell Windows XP to open them
anyway?  (I have already disabled the firewall.)

TIA,
 Chuck
Shenan Stanley - 22 May 2008 20:31 GMT
> s this simply not possible over a Windows XP LAN?
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> considered a security risk, but is there a way to tell Windows XP
> to open them anyway?  (I have already disabled the firewall.)

PSEXEC?

Not sure exactly what it is you are trying to do/your setup.

Are you saying you are sitting on the OTHER machine (not the one with the
SHARED folder - but the one ACCESSING the shared folder) and when you
double-click on the installer - nothing happens?

Can you copy the executable to the local desktop or something and run it?

Get any specific error messages?

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Chuck Anderson - 22 May 2008 21:42 GMT
>  
>> s this simply not possible over a Windows XP LAN?
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Not sure exactly what it is you are trying to do/your setup.
>  

I'm not sure what to call the two machines (or if it matters).

Computer A: I have installed a wireless router on my "main" PC - wired
to an ethernet port.

Computer B: I have another (new/used) Windows XP computer with a
wireless card that is connected to the wireless network.

I am trying to install an application on B by going to a shared folder
on A and opening an executable installation file
(TweakUiPowertoySetup-new.exe).  I have files and printers shared and
can even open zip files on A (from B), but when I double-click, or
right-click-Open the shared file, nothing happens ... no error, no
popup, nothing happens.  If I double click on a zip file, I get a
warning about "potential security risk" but then I can open it.

> Are you saying you are sitting on the OTHER machine (not the one with the
> SHARED folder - but the one ACCESSING the shared folder) and when you
> double-click on the installer - nothing happens?
>  

Correct.

> Can you copy the executable to the local desktop or something and run it?
>  

I can, ... but it seems like it would be more efficient to keep one copy
on A and install it on B over the network.

> Get any specific error messages?
>  

No message at all.
smlunatick - 22 May 2008 20:48 GMT
To run install files or zip, there is not difference with wired or wireless
networks.

You need to have all PCs:

1)  on the same IP network (ex 192.168.1.xxx)
2) be part of the same workgroup / domain
3) Share the folder
4) Set up File / Printer sharing access thru the software filewalls
5) Check and configure anti-virus Internet worm modules to let NetBIOS name
resolution for your network (LAN.)

>s this simply not possible over a Windows XP LAN?
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>TIA,
>  Chuck
Chuck Anderson - 22 May 2008 21:44 GMT
> To run install files or zip, there is not difference with wired or wireless
> networks.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> 1)  on the same IP network (ex 192.168.1.xxx)
>  

Yep.

> 2) be part of the same workgroup / domain
>  

Same workgroup.

> 3) Share the folder
>  

Yep. I can access the folder on the "remote" machine and open zip files.

> 4) Set up File / Printer sharing access thru the software filewalls
>  

Firewall is off on remote machine. Using Zone Alarm on the "main -
server?" but have put the remote machines IP address in the trusted zone

> 5) Check and configure anti-virus Internet worm modules to let NetBIOS name
> resolution for your network (LAN.)
>  

No anti-virus running.

>  
>> s this simply not possible over a Windows XP LAN?
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>>  Chuck
>>    

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pcbutts1  [MS MVP] - 22 May 2008 23:26 GMT
No antivirus at all or you just disabled it for the install?

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>> To run install files or zip, there is not difference with wired or
>> wireless networks.
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>>> TIA,
>>>  Chuck
Chuck Anderson - 23 May 2008 01:35 GMT
pcbutts1 [MS MVP] wrote:
> No antivirus at all or you just disabled it for the install?

No anti-virus at all.  I only run the antivirus program (AVG) on-demand.

It would seem from a couple other posts I've gotten here now, that you
cannot "simply" run an executable from a shared folder.  That's okay by
me.  I just thought it would be more efficient to not have to copy it first.

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pcbutts1  [MS MVP] - 23 May 2008 03:25 GMT
You "can" run an executable from a shared folder but that depends on the
executable. If it is a setup file it should work however there are viruses
and spyware that will prevent that if you are infected. I'm talking about
installing software on the computer you are in front of when the setup file
is on the remote computer. If you are trying to install that software onto
the remote computer then you have to use the "AT" command which you can run
from your computer. More info on the "AT" command can be found here
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/313565

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> pcbutts1 [MS MVP] wrote:
>> No antivirus at all or you just disabled it for the install?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> me.  I just thought it would be more efficient to not have to copy it
> first.
Leythos - 23 May 2008 03:41 GMT
> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been
> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.

Chris, you've been posting my name in EVERY ONE OF YOUR POSTS ALL OVER
USENET, if you don't want to see me reply then stop posting my name in
your posts - it's that simple. Take my name out of your posts and I'll
stop replying to them. It's your choice, keep harassing me in every post
and I'll keep replying to defend my name.

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jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk - 23 May 2008 05:02 GMT
> pcbutts1 [MS MVP] wrote:
> > No antivirus at all or you just disabled it for the install?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> cannot "simply" run an executable from a shared folder.  That's okay by
> me.  I just thought it would be more efficient to not have to copy it first.

some terminology.

Computer A accesses Computer B
So computerA is LOCAL.
computerB is REMOTE.

You can run an executable -from- a "shared folder"(so from the remote
machine's hard drive), but it runs -on- the local machine  (I don't do
it often, but I just tried it)

In your case, you say it is not doing anything, which is strange..

And you said you want it to run on the remote machine. Or did you mean
you want to run it FROM the remote machine, but ON your local
machine?   In both cases it is running from the remote machine..Or
rather, read from the remote machine's hard drive.
But,
File and printer sharing, it runs ON local. Meaning, it runs on the
local machine's CPU.  So programs open up on the local machine.
And regarding Whose C drive it sees.  It sees what the local one calls
C, which happens to be local.

Copying the file onto your local machine's drive might help if for
some odd reason it wasn't working.

If you wanted to run it from and on the -remote- machine, then  double
clicking the file is not what you are looking for. File and printer
sharing is not what you are looking for.

The purpose of FnP, and
The way it works, is the file is stored on the remote machine. On the
remote machine's hard disk.  So it is read from there, can be modified
and saved back there. . That is the limit of what can happen to those
files on the remote machine with "file and printer sharing"

So if you double click it,  then whether it is a txt or an exe,
windows acts  like it is any other local folder. The idea is that
although you are using the remote machine's hard drive

(note- it's not really "sharing"- like a business has co-owners.
sharing implies ownership.  You don't each get a portion.   It's
USING.    remote runs the server whose service your local client
software is using. There are no owners when it comes to computers.
People own things.  You use it, it's like it's yours. Who owns it is
about paper, not computers).

FnP makes it appear as if  it makes no difference that it happens to
be located remotely. It may as well be your hard drive.

And so if you double click a file, it opens as if it was on your hard
drive - just your hard drive located remotely / far away. A directory
on the remote hard drive, is yours - maybe limited access like read-
only, or may be read-write access, but it's yours to use.

And if you execute a file, it opens as if it is on your hard drive .
It executes on your computer, so on your CPU, and typically puts files
on C which happens to be a drive in your computer.

Actually, as a test, I was on \\laptop, and put speedfan.exe into a
"shared folder" called qw. .. \\greycomp\qw .
I ran it from my laptop..  It opened on my laptop but extracted into
the directory it was installed in, which was the remote comp.
The reason was..
It ran on my laptop's CPU, so it sees my laptop's hardware.
But as far as directory/folder/storage is concerned.  The file and
printer sharing makes it seamless.
It extracts into the current directory(the directory where it
resides).. that happens to be the remote comp, then fine.
Or,  it extracts files into c:\something  ,  then the files go on my
laptop hdd. Because C is always going to be the drive of the remote
machine. Which was my laptop.

The bottom line, is it uses the CPU of the local machine.  And since
it typically installs files to C. it tends to put files on the local
machine.
And since it reads/writes files from C, e.g. the registry perhaps ,
it's certainly not going to be installing on the remote machine.

I know that was very repetitive, but what the heck.

Fact is.. you were very unclear.. It looked like you were talking
about running it on the remote machine.
Then you talked about a solution of copying it to a local folder..
Maybe if the concept is clearer - I doubt my post will help clarify
it- but if it does, then maybe you can get your terminology clearer.
Leythos - 23 May 2008 03:40 GMT
> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been
> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.

Advanced towards you? HA HA HA - you create and post links about me and
others, filthy pornographic links, on YOUR WEBSITE, you even stalk me by
creating a domain name about me, and you claim I'm stalking your sorry
little person?

The fact is that your a sad little man, one that strongly appears to
pirate code from other people/vendors and then edit it to show your name
and then you take credit for the works and never give the real authors
credit for it.

The fact is that you are completely shunned by the anti-malware
community, you are looked on as a thief and pirate by all reputable
people in the community, you have posted links to your website that
contain filthy pornographic materials that you have proudly claimed you
created (which appear to also have been stolen from sites).....

Not one reputable person will come to vouch for you, and you want to
claim I made "advanced" towards you.... More of your delusional crap
Chris.

The link to the site that shows the links you've posted to Usenet are in
my Sig for all to see, links that YOU POSTED taking claim for the
content that is very nasty.

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You can find the same information by googling for 'PCBUTTS1' and
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cornedbeef007-groups@yahoo.com.au - 22 May 2008 23:56 GMT
> > 1)  on the same IP network (ex 192.168.1.xxx)
>
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>
> No anti-virus running.

Chuck,

You'll need to "Remote Desktop" into the machine with the .exe on it.
That will allow you to run the executable on the remote machine.

If on the other hand you want to run the executable that is located on
the remote machine on you local machine (the one you are now sitting
at) then will have to copy the exe from the remote to the local, and
then run it.

Good luck.
Chuck Anderson - 23 May 2008 01:36 GMT
>  
>>> 1)  on the same IP network (ex 192.168.1.xxx)
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> That will allow you to run the executable on the remote machine.
>  

I wanted to give Remote Desktop a try someday anyway.

> If on the other hand you want to run the executable that is located on
> the remote machine on you local machine (the one you are now sitting
> at) then will have to copy the exe from the remote to the local, and
> then run it.
>  

Works for me.

Thanks.

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jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk - 22 May 2008 23:54 GMT
> s this simply not possible over a Windows XP LAN?
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> TIA,
>   Chuck

If using File And Printer Sharing, you go to a shared folder on a
remote computer, and run an EXE  then it runs on your local machine,
not the remote one.

I don't know why nothing happens when you double click one, but
clearly it is not what you want anyway.

One way to run it is to access the screen of the remote machine, and
execute the file.  Windows remote desktop(it is built into windows
xp). or VNC.
Another way is a command line program by "sysinternals" calls psexec.

And maybe telnet might do it too.. windows xp (NT?) has a built in
telnet server you can start.

For remote desktop.. To start the server, (server is for the remote
machine, you do some checkbox within ctrl panel..system..).  To start
the client(do this on the local machine), you do
start...run..mstsc<ENTER>  to run mstsc.exe

Whatever servers you are running.. I suggest you have the windows
firewall On. And allowing them through.  BUT LIMIT (what windows
firewall calls) "THE SCOPE" to your own network. So that other
computers cannot connect.. The NAT Router you probably use should stop
them anyway. But it isn't really designed with that purpose.. The
Firewall should be set to stop them.
You may want to go to a port scanning website like Shields Up on
grc.com, and try that

note: Steve Gibson who runs GRC and made Shields Up, is a very bad
character.. Don't take him seriously.. His website information is
propaganda to obfuscate things in order to make -real- technical
information more obscure, and confusing, so as to hide knowledge from
potential hackers learning from his website.  He admitted himself that
he "set up a deliberate disinformation campaign". He is on tape saying
that, audio online somewhere. There used to be a website called
grcsucks that exposed him.. A few of its files are still around.
Very evil dangerous man.. But I have found his Shields Up thing
useful.
Chuck Anderson - 23 May 2008 01:39 GMT
>  
>> s this simply not possible over a Windows XP LAN?
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> not the remote one.
>  

Makes sense. I can simply copy it from the shared folder (and then
delete it it I really feel the need).

> I don't know why nothing happens when you double click one, but
> clearly it is not what you want anyway.
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> useful.
>  

Thanks for all the advice. I checked my system with Shields up with my
previous 4 port router. I think I'll give it a shot with this new
wireless one now, too.

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Uncle Marvo - 23 May 2008 09:32 GMT
Hi CHuck

I don't know if you've fixed this yet, but I've had the same sort of thing
before trying to run a setup routine.

I got round it in two ways

1. Copy the exe to the local machine and run it.
2. Map the network drive it's on (temporarily) to a drive letter.

HTH

>s this simply not possible over a Windows XP LAN?
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> TIA,
>  Chuck
Chuck Anderson - 24 May 2008 03:08 GMT
> Hi CHuck
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> 1. Copy the exe to the local machine and run it.
>  

Not sure why but I get "Access denied" even when I try to copy these
.exe files from the remote (Windows XP Home) computer. I believe it has
something to do with the fact that they are in my Documents & Settings
folder on the Local (Windows XP Pro) computer. I'm beginning to think
that simple file sharing is not going to be enough for me, yet when I
disable it and try to set permissions (on the XP Pro computer), I see no
way to set network permissions (for remote computer users), only the
local computer users.

> 2. Map the network drive it's on (temporarily) to a drive letter.
>  

I tried that and I still get Access Denied when trying to copy these
files in my Documents and Settings folder.

To be a little clearer about what I'm trying to do: Long ago I created a
folder called "Install files" under My Documents on my only (at the
time) computer (XP Pro) - and that is where I keep all of my downloaded
program install files. These are what I want to access from my new/used
remote (Xp Home) computer. I can run the .zip install files form the
remote, but I cannot copy the .exe install files. I keep getting access
denied. If I move them to another folder (i.e., C:/Temp), then I can
copy them.

I'm certainly confused by some of this home networking stuff.

> HTH
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>  

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pcbutts1  [MS MVP] - 24 May 2008 04:18 GMT
After you move them to the temp folder can you run them?

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>> Hi CHuck
>>
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
>>> TIA,
>>>  Chuck
Chuck Anderson - 24 May 2008 05:33 GMT
pcbutts1 [MS MVP] wrote:
> After you move them to the temp folder can you run them?
>  

Yes.  And here's what I mean more precisely.  If I move the exe file to
C:/temp (and share it) on my local computer (XP Pro), I can then
double-click and execute the file from the remote computer - over the
network.

It seems to be something about the sharing files in the Documents and
Settings folder.

I found a page last night (Googling) that said without disabling Simple
File Sharing, you cannot copy files over the network from Documents and
Settings (or the Windows Folder).  Of course, I can not find that page
again today.

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pcbutts1  [MS MVP] - 24 May 2008 15:14 GMT
It sounds like a permissions issue, I don't have that issue on mine. Check
the security of the document and settings folder see if your account has the
proper permissions.

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> pcbutts1 [MS MVP] wrote:
>> After you move them to the temp folder can you run them?
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Settings (or the Windows Folder).  Of course, I can not find that page
> again today.
Leythos - 24 May 2008 18:02 GMT
> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been
> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.

Chris, you've been posting my name in EVERY ONE OF YOUR POSTS ALL OVER
USENET, if you don't want to see me reply then stop posting my name in
your posts - it's that simple. Take my name out of your posts and I'll
stop replying to them. It's your choice, keep harassing me in every post
and I'll keep replying to defend my name.

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Chuck Anderson - 24 May 2008 21:31 GMT
pcbutts1 [MS MVP] wrote:
> It sounds like a permissions issue, I don't have that issue on mine. Check
> the security of the document and settings folder see if your account has the
> proper permissions.
>  

Without really understanding what I'm doing, I've gotten this working.  
I disabled Simple File Sharing on my XP Pro PC and looked at Security
for the folder that works (C:/temp) and for the "Install Files" folder
(in Documents and Settings) - both Shared.  Seeing that C:/temp had an
entry for "Everyone" (with Read&Execute, List  Folder Contents, and Read
permission enabled), I clicked on Add in the Install Files folder (in
Documents and Settings) and added "Everyone," which appeared along with
the same permissions settings (Read&Execute, List  Folder Contents, and
Read permission).

Now I can copy and even execute the shared install files (.exe) from the
remote machine (XP Home) - even if I re-enable Simple File Sharing.

Problem solved.

.... It seems to me that when I shared the folder in Documents and
Settings, the "Everyone" entry should have been added by Simple File
Sharing, but for some reason, it was not.  At least I have it working now.

Thanks for the help .... and for hanging in there with me.

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pcbutts1  [MS MVP] - 24 May 2008 22:26 GMT
You're Welcome glad to hear it's working.

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> pcbutts1 [MS MVP] wrote:
>> It sounds like a permissions issue, I don't have that issue on mine.
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> Thanks for the help .... and for hanging in there with me.
Leythos - 25 May 2008 04:09 GMT
> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been
> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.

Chris, you've been posting my name in EVERY ONE OF YOUR POSTS ALL OVER
USENET, if you don't want to see me reply then stop posting my name in
your posts - it's that simple. Take my name out of your posts and I'll
stop replying to them. It's your choice, keep harassing me in every post
and I'll keep replying to defend my name.

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jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk - 25 May 2008 02:21 GMT
> pcbutts1 [MS MVP] wrote:
> > It sounds like a permissions issue, I don't have that issue on mine. Check
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> Thanks for the help .... and for hanging in there with me.

Very stupid and ignorant of you.

You should have said that when you double clicked the EXE you get some
"Access Denied" error.. and written it exactly.

What you said, was that nothing happened.

Like the idiot customer on the wordperfect tech.. Who saw a black
screen with a C, and thought that was "Nothing".    Or the guy who
when he clicked Save and nothing popped up on the screen, he thought
nothing had happened. It didn't occur to him that it had saved the
entry.

Or the guy who wrote a program, ran it, and couldn't understand how
nothing had happened. Actually he hadn't printed anything on the
screen. But I wouldn't put you on his level.

Your case was more stupid. You got a f.cking error message popping
up.
I'm not suggesting reading it to make sense of it, but putting it into
google would be useful.  A specific error message, worded the way it
is, even if the error message is complete nonsense, it only comes up
in certain situations. And you can usually find solutions quite easily
from googling it.

I can't remember the specific errors, but it could be the "make this
folder private" box was ticked in SFS for that folder in DnS.. Or
perhaps less likely, the "Allow users to change my files" wasn't
ticked and the exe was trying to write there.
Chuck Anderson - 26 May 2008 20:23 GMT
>  
>> pcbutts1 [MS MVP] wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> Very stupid and ignorant of you.
>  

???

> You should have said that when you double clicked the EXE you get some
> "Access Denied" error.. and written it exactly.
>  

But that would have been wrong, Sir James. Like I said, when I
double-clicked, I got absolutely nothing.

> What you said, was that nothing happened.
>  

Because nothing happened ..... duh.

Later, when I tried to copy and paste, I got "Access denied." You can
read, can't you? I made that quite clear. After googling that error
message (with network , remote, shared) and listening to the advice I
received here, I found a way to fix my problem.

I'm not even going to bother addressing (or quoting) your irrelevant and
asinine rant. Rather ... I suggest you remove the burr from your a.s and
start your day over.

Thanks for the help ô¿Ô¬

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jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk - 26 May 2008 21:43 GMT
> jameshanle...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
> message (with network , remote, shared) and listening to the advice I
> received here, I found a way to fix my problem.

then I misunderstood you, though you really weren't very clear - on a
number of points, from the beginning..

> Thanks for the help ô¿Ô¬

No problem.  I am very very rude - to most people.
Leythos - 24 May 2008 14:04 GMT
> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been
> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.

Chris, you've been posting my name in EVERY ONE OF YOUR POSTS ALL OVER
USENET, if you don't want to see me reply then stop posting my name in
your posts - it's that simple. Take my name out of your posts and I'll
stop replying to them. It's your choice, keep harassing me in every post
and I'll keep replying to defend my name.

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