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Chuck Anderson - 22 May 2008 20:17 GMT s this simply not possible over a Windows XP LAN?
I have a wireless network in my home with one remote computer. I have shared a folder containing installation files. Some are zip files, others are executables. I want to install software on the remote machine by opening shared .exe installation files, but when I try to Open them, nothing happens. I can see why this might be considered a security risk, but is there a way to tell Windows XP to open them anyway? (I have already disabled the firewall.)
TIA, Chuck
Shenan Stanley - 22 May 2008 20:31 GMT > s this simply not possible over a Windows XP LAN? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > considered a security risk, but is there a way to tell Windows XP > to open them anyway? (I have already disabled the firewall.) PSEXEC?
Not sure exactly what it is you are trying to do/your setup.
Are you saying you are sitting on the OTHER machine (not the one with the SHARED folder - but the one ACCESSING the shared folder) and when you double-click on the installer - nothing happens?
Can you copy the executable to the local desktop or something and run it?
Get any specific error messages?
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Chuck Anderson - 22 May 2008 21:42 GMT > >> s this simply not possible over a Windows XP LAN? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Not sure exactly what it is you are trying to do/your setup. > I'm not sure what to call the two machines (or if it matters).
Computer A: I have installed a wireless router on my "main" PC - wired to an ethernet port.
Computer B: I have another (new/used) Windows XP computer with a wireless card that is connected to the wireless network.
I am trying to install an application on B by going to a shared folder on A and opening an executable installation file (TweakUiPowertoySetup-new.exe). I have files and printers shared and can even open zip files on A (from B), but when I double-click, or right-click-Open the shared file, nothing happens ... no error, no popup, nothing happens. If I double click on a zip file, I get a warning about "potential security risk" but then I can open it.
> Are you saying you are sitting on the OTHER machine (not the one with the > SHARED folder - but the one ACCESSING the shared folder) and when you > double-click on the installer - nothing happens? > Correct.
> Can you copy the executable to the local desktop or something and run it? > I can, ... but it seems like it would be more efficient to keep one copy on A and install it on B over the network.
> Get any specific error messages? > No message at all.
smlunatick - 22 May 2008 20:48 GMT To run install files or zip, there is not difference with wired or wireless networks.
You need to have all PCs:
1) on the same IP network (ex 192.168.1.xxx) 2) be part of the same workgroup / domain 3) Share the folder 4) Set up File / Printer sharing access thru the software filewalls 5) Check and configure anti-virus Internet worm modules to let NetBIOS name resolution for your network (LAN.)
>s this simply not possible over a Windows XP LAN? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >TIA, > Chuck Chuck Anderson - 22 May 2008 21:44 GMT > To run install files or zip, there is not difference with wired or wireless > networks. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > 1) on the same IP network (ex 192.168.1.xxx) > Yep.
> 2) be part of the same workgroup / domain > Same workgroup.
> 3) Share the folder > Yep. I can access the folder on the "remote" machine and open zip files.
> 4) Set up File / Printer sharing access thru the software filewalls > Firewall is off on remote machine. Using Zone Alarm on the "main - server?" but have put the remote machines IP address in the trusted zone
> 5) Check and configure anti-virus Internet worm modules to let NetBIOS name > resolution for your network (LAN.) > No anti-virus running.
> >> s this simply not possible over a Windows XP LAN? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> Chuck >>
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pcbutts1 [MS MVP] - 22 May 2008 23:26 GMT No antivirus at all or you just disabled it for the install?
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>> To run install files or zip, there is not difference with wired or >> wireless networks. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >>> TIA, >>> Chuck Chuck Anderson - 23 May 2008 01:35 GMT pcbutts1 [MS MVP] wrote:
> No antivirus at all or you just disabled it for the install? No anti-virus at all. I only run the antivirus program (AVG) on-demand.
It would seem from a couple other posts I've gotten here now, that you cannot "simply" run an executable from a shared folder. That's okay by me. I just thought it would be more efficient to not have to copy it first.
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pcbutts1 [MS MVP] - 23 May 2008 03:25 GMT You "can" run an executable from a shared folder but that depends on the executable. If it is a setup file it should work however there are viruses and spyware that will prevent that if you are infected. I'm talking about installing software on the computer you are in front of when the setup file is on the remote computer. If you are trying to install that software onto the remote computer then you have to use the "AT" command which you can run from your computer. More info on the "AT" command can be found here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/313565
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> pcbutts1 [MS MVP] wrote: >> No antivirus at all or you just disabled it for the install? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > me. I just thought it would be more efficient to not have to copy it > first. Leythos - 23 May 2008 03:41 GMT > Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been > obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me. Chris, you've been posting my name in EVERY ONE OF YOUR POSTS ALL OVER USENET, if you don't want to see me reply then stop posting my name in your posts - it's that simple. Take my name out of your posts and I'll stop replying to them. It's your choice, keep harassing me in every post and I'll keep replying to defend my name.
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jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk - 23 May 2008 05:02 GMT > pcbutts1 [MS MVP] wrote: > > No antivirus at all or you just disabled it for the install? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > cannot "simply" run an executable from a shared folder. That's okay by > me. I just thought it would be more efficient to not have to copy it first. some terminology.
Computer A accesses Computer B So computerA is LOCAL. computerB is REMOTE.
You can run an executable -from- a "shared folder"(so from the remote machine's hard drive), but it runs -on- the local machine (I don't do it often, but I just tried it)
In your case, you say it is not doing anything, which is strange..
And you said you want it to run on the remote machine. Or did you mean you want to run it FROM the remote machine, but ON your local machine? In both cases it is running from the remote machine..Or rather, read from the remote machine's hard drive. But, File and printer sharing, it runs ON local. Meaning, it runs on the local machine's CPU. So programs open up on the local machine. And regarding Whose C drive it sees. It sees what the local one calls C, which happens to be local.
Copying the file onto your local machine's drive might help if for some odd reason it wasn't working.
If you wanted to run it from and on the -remote- machine, then double clicking the file is not what you are looking for. File and printer sharing is not what you are looking for.
The purpose of FnP, and The way it works, is the file is stored on the remote machine. On the remote machine's hard disk. So it is read from there, can be modified and saved back there. . That is the limit of what can happen to those files on the remote machine with "file and printer sharing"
So if you double click it, then whether it is a txt or an exe, windows acts like it is any other local folder. The idea is that although you are using the remote machine's hard drive
(note- it's not really "sharing"- like a business has co-owners. sharing implies ownership. You don't each get a portion. It's USING. remote runs the server whose service your local client software is using. There are no owners when it comes to computers. People own things. You use it, it's like it's yours. Who owns it is about paper, not computers).
FnP makes it appear as if it makes no difference that it happens to be located remotely. It may as well be your hard drive.
And so if you double click a file, it opens as if it was on your hard drive - just your hard drive located remotely / far away. A directory on the remote hard drive, is yours - maybe limited access like read- only, or may be read-write access, but it's yours to use.
And if you execute a file, it opens as if it is on your hard drive . It executes on your computer, so on your CPU, and typically puts files on C which happens to be a drive in your computer.
Actually, as a test, I was on \\laptop, and put speedfan.exe into a "shared folder" called qw. .. \\greycomp\qw . I ran it from my laptop.. It opened on my laptop but extracted into the directory it was installed in, which was the remote comp. The reason was.. It ran on my laptop's CPU, so it sees my laptop's hardware. But as far as directory/folder/storage is concerned. The file and printer sharing makes it seamless. It extracts into the current directory(the directory where it resides).. that happens to be the remote comp, then fine. Or, it extracts files into c:\something , then the files go on my laptop hdd. Because C is always going to be the drive of the remote machine. Which was my laptop.
The bottom line, is it uses the CPU of the local machine. And since it typically installs files to C. it tends to put files on the local machine. And since it reads/writes files from C, e.g. the registry perhaps , it's certainly not going to be installing on the remote machine.
I know that was very repetitive, but what the heck.
Fact is.. you were very unclear.. It looked like you were talking about running it on the remote machine. Then you talked about a solution of copying it to a local folder.. Maybe if the concept is clearer - I doubt my post will help clarify it- but if it does, then maybe you can get your terminology clearer.
Leythos - 23 May 2008 03:40 GMT > Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been > obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me. Advanced towards you? HA HA HA - you create and post links about me and others, filthy pornographic links, on YOUR WEBSITE, you even stalk me by creating a domain name about me, and you claim I'm stalking your sorry little person?
The fact is that your a sad little man, one that strongly appears to pirate code from other people/vendors and then edit it to show your name and then you take credit for the works and never give the real authors credit for it.
The fact is that you are completely shunned by the anti-malware community, you are looked on as a thief and pirate by all reputable people in the community, you have posted links to your website that contain filthy pornographic materials that you have proudly claimed you created (which appear to also have been stolen from sites).....
Not one reputable person will come to vouch for you, and you want to claim I made "advanced" towards you.... More of your delusional crap Chris.
The link to the site that shows the links you've posted to Usenet are in my Sig for all to see, links that YOU POSTED taking claim for the content that is very nasty.
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cornedbeef007-groups@yahoo.com.au - 22 May 2008 23:56 GMT > > 1) on the same IP network (ex 192.168.1.xxx) > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > No anti-virus running. Chuck,
You'll need to "Remote Desktop" into the machine with the .exe on it. That will allow you to run the executable on the remote machine.
If on the other hand you want to run the executable that is located on the remote machine on you local machine (the one you are now sitting at) then will have to copy the exe from the remote to the local, and then run it.
Good luck.
Chuck Anderson - 23 May 2008 01:36 GMT > >>> 1) on the same IP network (ex 192.168.1.xxx) [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > That will allow you to run the executable on the remote machine. > I wanted to give Remote Desktop a try someday anyway.
> If on the other hand you want to run the executable that is located on > the remote machine on you local machine (the one you are now sitting > at) then will have to copy the exe from the remote to the local, and > then run it. > Works for me.
Thanks.
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jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk - 22 May 2008 23:54 GMT > s this simply not possible over a Windows XP LAN? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > TIA, > Chuck If using File And Printer Sharing, you go to a shared folder on a remote computer, and run an EXE then it runs on your local machine, not the remote one.
I don't know why nothing happens when you double click one, but clearly it is not what you want anyway.
One way to run it is to access the screen of the remote machine, and execute the file. Windows remote desktop(it is built into windows xp). or VNC. Another way is a command line program by "sysinternals" calls psexec.
And maybe telnet might do it too.. windows xp (NT?) has a built in telnet server you can start.
For remote desktop.. To start the server, (server is for the remote machine, you do some checkbox within ctrl panel..system..). To start the client(do this on the local machine), you do start...run..mstsc<ENTER> to run mstsc.exe
Whatever servers you are running.. I suggest you have the windows firewall On. And allowing them through. BUT LIMIT (what windows firewall calls) "THE SCOPE" to your own network. So that other computers cannot connect.. The NAT Router you probably use should stop them anyway. But it isn't really designed with that purpose.. The Firewall should be set to stop them. You may want to go to a port scanning website like Shields Up on grc.com, and try that
note: Steve Gibson who runs GRC and made Shields Up, is a very bad character.. Don't take him seriously.. His website information is propaganda to obfuscate things in order to make -real- technical information more obscure, and confusing, so as to hide knowledge from potential hackers learning from his website. He admitted himself that he "set up a deliberate disinformation campaign". He is on tape saying that, audio online somewhere. There used to be a website called grcsucks that exposed him.. A few of its files are still around. Very evil dangerous man.. But I have found his Shields Up thing useful.
Chuck Anderson - 23 May 2008 01:39 GMT > >> s this simply not possible over a Windows XP LAN? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > not the remote one. > Makes sense. I can simply copy it from the shared folder (and then delete it it I really feel the need).
> I don't know why nothing happens when you double click one, but > clearly it is not what you want anyway. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > useful. > Thanks for all the advice. I checked my system with Shields up with my previous 4 port router. I think I'll give it a shot with this new wireless one now, too.
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Uncle Marvo - 23 May 2008 09:32 GMT Hi CHuck
I don't know if you've fixed this yet, but I've had the same sort of thing before trying to run a setup routine.
I got round it in two ways
1. Copy the exe to the local machine and run it. 2. Map the network drive it's on (temporarily) to a drive letter.
HTH
>s this simply not possible over a Windows XP LAN? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > TIA, > Chuck Chuck Anderson - 24 May 2008 03:08 GMT > Hi CHuck > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > 1. Copy the exe to the local machine and run it. > Not sure why but I get "Access denied" even when I try to copy these .exe files from the remote (Windows XP Home) computer. I believe it has something to do with the fact that they are in my Documents & Settings folder on the Local (Windows XP Pro) computer. I'm beginning to think that simple file sharing is not going to be enough for me, yet when I disable it and try to set permissions (on the XP Pro computer), I see no way to set network permissions (for remote computer users), only the local computer users.
> 2. Map the network drive it's on (temporarily) to a drive letter. > I tried that and I still get Access Denied when trying to copy these files in my Documents and Settings folder.
To be a little clearer about what I'm trying to do: Long ago I created a folder called "Install files" under My Documents on my only (at the time) computer (XP Pro) - and that is where I keep all of my downloaded program install files. These are what I want to access from my new/used remote (Xp Home) computer. I can run the .zip install files form the remote, but I cannot copy the .exe install files. I keep getting access denied. If I move them to another folder (i.e., C:/Temp), then I can copy them.
I'm certainly confused by some of this home networking stuff.
> HTH > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >
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pcbutts1 [MS MVP] - 24 May 2008 04:18 GMT After you move them to the temp folder can you run them?
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>> Hi CHuck >> [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >>> TIA, >>> Chuck Chuck Anderson - 24 May 2008 05:33 GMT pcbutts1 [MS MVP] wrote:
> After you move them to the temp folder can you run them? > Yes. And here's what I mean more precisely. If I move the exe file to C:/temp (and share it) on my local computer (XP Pro), I can then double-click and execute the file from the remote computer - over the network.
It seems to be something about the sharing files in the Documents and Settings folder.
I found a page last night (Googling) that said without disabling Simple File Sharing, you cannot copy files over the network from Documents and Settings (or the Windows Folder). Of course, I can not find that page again today.
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pcbutts1 [MS MVP] - 24 May 2008 15:14 GMT It sounds like a permissions issue, I don't have that issue on mine. Check the security of the document and settings folder see if your account has the proper permissions.
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> pcbutts1 [MS MVP] wrote: >> After you move them to the temp folder can you run them? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Settings (or the Windows Folder). Of course, I can not find that page > again today. Leythos - 24 May 2008 18:02 GMT > Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been > obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me. Chris, you've been posting my name in EVERY ONE OF YOUR POSTS ALL OVER USENET, if you don't want to see me reply then stop posting my name in your posts - it's that simple. Take my name out of your posts and I'll stop replying to them. It's your choice, keep harassing me in every post and I'll keep replying to defend my name.
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Chuck Anderson - 24 May 2008 21:31 GMT pcbutts1 [MS MVP] wrote:
> It sounds like a permissions issue, I don't have that issue on mine. Check > the security of the document and settings folder see if your account has the > proper permissions. > Without really understanding what I'm doing, I've gotten this working. I disabled Simple File Sharing on my XP Pro PC and looked at Security for the folder that works (C:/temp) and for the "Install Files" folder (in Documents and Settings) - both Shared. Seeing that C:/temp had an entry for "Everyone" (with Read&Execute, List Folder Contents, and Read permission enabled), I clicked on Add in the Install Files folder (in Documents and Settings) and added "Everyone," which appeared along with the same permissions settings (Read&Execute, List Folder Contents, and Read permission).
Now I can copy and even execute the shared install files (.exe) from the remote machine (XP Home) - even if I re-enable Simple File Sharing.
Problem solved.
.... It seems to me that when I shared the folder in Documents and Settings, the "Everyone" entry should have been added by Simple File Sharing, but for some reason, it was not. At least I have it working now.
Thanks for the help .... and for hanging in there with me.
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pcbutts1 [MS MVP] - 24 May 2008 22:26 GMT You're Welcome glad to hear it's working.
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> pcbutts1 [MS MVP] wrote: >> It sounds like a permissions issue, I don't have that issue on mine. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Thanks for the help .... and for hanging in there with me. Leythos - 25 May 2008 04:09 GMT > Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been > obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me. Chris, you've been posting my name in EVERY ONE OF YOUR POSTS ALL OVER USENET, if you don't want to see me reply then stop posting my name in your posts - it's that simple. Take my name out of your posts and I'll stop replying to them. It's your choice, keep harassing me in every post and I'll keep replying to defend my name.
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jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk - 25 May 2008 02:21 GMT > pcbutts1 [MS MVP] wrote: > > It sounds like a permissions issue, I don't have that issue on mine. Check [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Thanks for the help .... and for hanging in there with me. Very stupid and ignorant of you.
You should have said that when you double clicked the EXE you get some "Access Denied" error.. and written it exactly.
What you said, was that nothing happened.
Like the idiot customer on the wordperfect tech.. Who saw a black screen with a C, and thought that was "Nothing". Or the guy who when he clicked Save and nothing popped up on the screen, he thought nothing had happened. It didn't occur to him that it had saved the entry.
Or the guy who wrote a program, ran it, and couldn't understand how nothing had happened. Actually he hadn't printed anything on the screen. But I wouldn't put you on his level.
Your case was more stupid. You got a f.cking error message popping up. I'm not suggesting reading it to make sense of it, but putting it into google would be useful. A specific error message, worded the way it is, even if the error message is complete nonsense, it only comes up in certain situations. And you can usually find solutions quite easily from googling it.
I can't remember the specific errors, but it could be the "make this folder private" box was ticked in SFS for that folder in DnS.. Or perhaps less likely, the "Allow users to change my files" wasn't ticked and the exe was trying to write there.
Chuck Anderson - 26 May 2008 20:23 GMT > >> pcbutts1 [MS MVP] wrote: [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Very stupid and ignorant of you. > ???
> You should have said that when you double clicked the EXE you get some > "Access Denied" error.. and written it exactly. > But that would have been wrong, Sir James. Like I said, when I double-clicked, I got absolutely nothing.
> What you said, was that nothing happened. > Because nothing happened ..... duh.
Later, when I tried to copy and paste, I got "Access denied." You can read, can't you? I made that quite clear. After googling that error message (with network , remote, shared) and listening to the advice I received here, I found a way to fix my problem.
I'm not even going to bother addressing (or quoting) your irrelevant and asinine rant. Rather ... I suggest you remove the burr from your a.s and start your day over.
Thanks for the help ô¿Ô¬
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jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk - 26 May 2008 21:43 GMT > jameshanle...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > message (with network , remote, shared) and listening to the advice I > received here, I found a way to fix my problem. then I misunderstood you, though you really weren't very clear - on a number of points, from the beginning..
> Thanks for the help ô¿Ô¬ No problem. I am very very rude - to most people.
Leythos - 24 May 2008 14:04 GMT > Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been > obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me. Chris, you've been posting my name in EVERY ONE OF YOUR POSTS ALL OVER USENET, if you don't want to see me reply then stop posting my name in your posts - it's that simple. Take my name out of your posts and I'll stop replying to them. It's your choice, keep harassing me in every post and I'll keep replying to defend my name.
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