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Windows Forum / Windows XP / General Topics 1 / May 2008Installing XP & Key code question
Hello, I have a legal license's copy of XP which came loaded on my HP Desktop computer. The XP software for doing a re-install is part of the whole software package that came with the computer and is not a separate disc. I was wondering if I bought a new full version XP disc and used it to load XP on my HP desktop computer in the future. Would the new XP disc continue to load if I use the key code that came with my HP computer instead of using the key code that came with the disc? In other words; could I use the new disc just for installing XP on my desktop and then use the new disc and the licenses that came with it to install on another computer? I don't like how the recovery disc that came with the computer installs on my HP computer and I was wondering if I could share the disc. That is why I am asking this question. Any information would be appreciated. I hope everyone has a Safe & Happy Memorial Day! Thanks, James Not likely as HP uses OEM factory key code. Retail product needs the key that came with it. JS > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Thanks, > James Hi JS, Thank you for responding to me question and for your input. It is greatly appreciated. I hope you are enjoying the Memorial Day weekend. Stay safe! Thanks again, James > Not likely as HP uses OEM factory key code. > Retail product needs the key that came with it. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> Thanks, >> James > Hi JS, > > Thank you for responding to me question and for your input. It is > greatly appreciated. I hope you are enjoying the Memorial Day > weekend. Stay safe! Memorial Day is a remembrance of why we ARE safe: "We sleep safe at night because rough men stand ready to visit violence on those who would do us harm." > I have a legal license's copy of XP which came loaded on my HP Desktop > computer. The XP software for doing a re-install is part of the whole [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > wondering if I could share the disc. That is why I am asking this > question. Since you already paid for your license, there is no need to give any more money to Microsoft! Hopefully a friend, neighbor, relative, or co-worker has a generic OEM XP Home disc you may borrow. If so, make a copy for yourself (this is not piracy because owning the *license* is what's important). Then you may use the disk to perform a clean install. The product key on your Certificate of Authenticity sticker will work. If you ever need to perform a repair install down the road, you can also use that disk. If you are unable to obtain a generic OEM XP Home disk, you might be able to make your own, provided you have access to the I386 folder. Instructions can be found at: http://www.howtohaven.com/system/createwindowssetupdisk.shtml (Some people have had success downloading XP via P2P, but I don't recommend this method since there's no guarantee you won't also be downloading viruses, etc.) If for some reason you wish to pay for a *retail* CD of XP Home, you can use it on your HP, of course, but you would also *eventually* be able to use it on another PC if you wish. Unlike OEM licenses (which are forever tied to the one PC on which they are installed), retail licenses are transferable. (That's one reason they are more expensive; another reason is that you are entitled to limited support from Microsoft.) You just need to know that you cannot use your license on more than one PC *at a time*. So if you ever get another PC, you could remove XP from your HP (reformatting the hard drive would accomplish this) and then install it on the new PC. But if it were me, I'd just stick with the license you already have -- chances are your next PC will have Vista. :-) Hi Dave, Thank you so much for replying to my question and for covering the issue in such detail. You are very kind to take so much time to explain all this to me. I do want to make sure of one thing though. You know what happens when you assume. First; as you read I want the disc for myself in case I have to do a fresh install and also for the reason you stated; "a repair install" or for startup repair, etc. I also want a second licenses for my dad. Right now he is still running win98 and may some time in the future want to go to XP. Since XP is not going to be out on the shelves much longer I wanted to have a disc in case he ever wanted to update. Since I wanted a disc anyway I am trying to save him money by me buying a disc and giving him the licenses. Now with you knowing what I am trying to accomplish could I do this using a new XP OEM discs? I see them on eBay for sale here and there. Could I buy one of them and use it the way I explained? I believe I can from your explanation, but I don't want to assume. It has got me into trouble before. Thanks again for all your help. It is very kind of you and I appreciate it. I hope you are having a Safe and Happy Memorial Day! Best regards, James >> I have a legal license's copy of XP which came loaded on my HP Desktop >> computer. The XP software for doing a re-install is part of the whole [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > the new PC. But if it were me, I'd just stick with the license you already > have -- chances are your next PC will have Vista. :-) I follow. First of all, stay away from Ebay. Although I'm sure there are some reputable sellers there, I know there are many who aren't; there have been a good number of posts here from people who have been ripped off. Now that SP3 is out, I would recommend purchasing an OEM CD that has SP3 integrated from a merchant such as New Egg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116511&Tpk=32-116-511 You can also compare prices using sites such as NexTag.com and PriceGrabber.com . This is not only an affordable option, but it will allow you to use it on your HP (just use the product key on your HP's COA sticker) *and* you can use it on your father's PC (use the product key that comes with the CD). Of course, your father's PC's specs will have to be adequate to warrant installing XP; older PCs are better off running 98SE. Hope this helps, and happy Memorial Day to you, too! > Hi Dave, > [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] >> were me, I'd just stick with the license you already have -- chances >> are your next PC will have Vista. :-) Hello Dave, Thank you! You are a very big help! I really appreciate it and will follow everything you said. Oh; My dad's computer is only about 2 or 3 years old and is very capable of evening running Vista, with a RAM upgrade. He had the computer built with Windows 98 SE installed because he does a lot of work using Dos and did not want to lose that capability. I told him about setting up a dual boot with XP and 98. This way he could still do dos on 98 and then use XP for everything else. He has had trouble with his computer running win98 since he got it, but stuck with it to run dos. I worked on his computer the past week and he is pretty happy with it right now (knock on wood). I told him he will still have trouble because of win98 and explained the dual boot would be best. I think he wants to wait until he has trouble again. I just needed to find out what I asked now so I could buy an XP Disc before they are no longer for sale. You are a big asset to this message board! Thanks again, James >I follow. > [quoted text clipped - 87 lines] >>> on the new PC. But if it were me, I'd just stick with the license you >>> already have -- chances are your next PC will have Vista. :-) Glad I could help, James. > Hello Dave, > [quoted text clipped - 126 lines] >>>> the license you already have -- chances are your next PC will have >>>> Vista. :-) yes it worked for me when i used a seperate xp disc on my acer laptop when i had to reinstall xp (i didn't what to got throught the hastle of removing all the preinstalled software including nortan, which i hate!) Hi Al, Thank you for adding to my question. I am glad to hear that this was actually done. I really appreciate that you and all the others took the time to to respond. It is good to know there are still great people in this world. Thanks again everyone and I hope you all are having a Safe and Happy Holiday! Take care, James > yes it worked for me when i used a seperate xp disc on my acer laptop > when i had to reinstall xp (i didn't what to got throught the hastle > of removing all the preinstalled software including nortan, which i > hate!) DAAVE, He can create an install CD (SP3 version) for himself without forking out any more money. He can slipstream SP3 to his files in i386 folder. He should give a try before spending any money. hth >I follow. > [quoted text clipped - 100 lines] > > > DAAVE, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > hth That advice sounds familiar for some reason. Oh that's right, it was my initial advice: >>>>If you are unable to obtain a generic OEM XP Home disk, you might be >>>>able to make your own, provided you have access to the I386 folder. >>>>Instructions can be found at: >>>> >>>>http://www.howtohaven.com/system/createwindowssetupdisk.shtml But if you read James's other post, he indicated he wanted to purchase *another* license *for his father*. So that is why I wrote the following: >>This is not only an affordable option, but it will allow you to use it >>on your HP (just use the product key on your HP's COA sticker) *and* >>you can use it on your father's PC (use the product key that comes >>with the CD). Of course, your father's PC's specs will have to be >>adequate to warrant installing XP; older PCs are better off running >>98SE. You should really read the posts before you respond to them! Snipped .... > I see them on eBay for sale > here and there. Could I buy one of them and use it the way I explained? Snipped.... Getting a legitimate license of any kind from eBay is something of a crap shoot. One should be very careful buying any software on eBay, as eBay makes no prior effort to ensure that such sales are legitimate. The problems stem from two completely different sources, but have the same results: the buyer gets ripped off. A great many people don't fully understand the terms of the license they own, and don't understand that they cannot legitimately resell it, and - worse still - there are a great many sellers who do know that they're selling bogus licenses. eBay reacts only when someone files a complaint, and then all that really happens, especially in the case of the many deliberate fraudsters, is the seller of the pirated software returns using a different alias, to continue selling illegitimate licenses. It might cost a bit more, but you'd be sure of getting a legitimate license by going to a reputable on-line vendor, such as NewEgg or Amazon. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116515 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116511 http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-System-Builders-VERSION/dp/B000JTFVME/re f=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1211822627&sr=1-2  SignatureBruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Thanks, > James It is the Product Key that represents the license, not the physical CD. One can use the same Cd on many computers, provided that one has a separate Product Key for each installation. If you were to purchase an unbranded, generic OEM WinXP license (the same edition - Home or Pro - as is installed on the HP), you should be able to install that on the HP using the OEM Product Key. Then you could use the Product Key that came with the unbranded, generic OEM CD on a second computer. You'd have two Product Keys, so you'd have two licenses. Bear in mind, though, that for this to work, the unbranded, generic OEM license that you purchase *must* be of the same WinXP Edition as came pre-installed on the HP. Product Keys are bound to the specific type and language of CD/license (OEM, Volume, retail, or full) with which they are purchased. For example, a WinXP Home OEM Product Key won't work for any retail version of WinXP Home, or for any version of WinXP Pro, and vice versa. An OEM Product Key will not work to install a retail product. An Italian Product Key will not work with an English CD. Bottom line: Product Keys and CD/license types cannot usually (it's been reported that the Product Key for a full license will work with an Upgrade CD) be mixed & matched. SignatureBruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot Hello Bruce, Thank you for replying to my questions. You and Dave have been a big help and I completely understand what I need to do. Thank you so much, I really appreciate the time you took to help me out. You and Dave are big assets to this message board. I am glad nice guys like you take the time to help others out. I hope you are having a Safe and Happy Memorial Day! Thanks again, James >> Hello, >> [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > types cannot usually (it's been reported that the Product Key for a full > license will work with an Upgrade CD) be mixed & matched. > Hello Bruce, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > assets to this message board. I am glad nice guys like you take the time > to help others out. You're welcome. > I hope you are having a Safe and Happy Memorial Day! And the same to you. SignatureBruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot You can create an Install CD from your existing system provided you have Windows Serial number (at the back of your system or at the bottom of Laptop). and a folder called i386 on your HD drive. this folder should be at the root of the HD. > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Thanks, > James |
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