Trying to recover XP after failed upgrade to SP3

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sychotic <c>hicken - 27 May 2008 17:33 GMT

I had my system just the way I wanted it and everything I wanted to do
worked.

Then I upgraded to SP3.

SP3 wouldn't boot and nor would safe mode so I had to "repair" my
installation by reinstalling my original SP1 installation disk and
installing SP2 over the top of it.

Sadly my system is nowhere near the state it was in before. Since SP3
caused this problem and SP3 intransigence in not allowing me to remove
it in the usual way has caused a lot of problems that would take me 20
mins to list here ... however

A brief list
RPC server not working. Now partially fixed
DCHP has to be started manually each time I start the machine.
NVIDIA driver installation program doesn't recognise NVIDIA Geforce
FX5200 card and won't install. I have downloaded 4 different drivers
and have the CD driver which will run but still won't fire up the card
upon a reboot.
Drivers are:
71.89_win2kxp.english
91.31_winxp2kmce_english_whql
169.21_forceware_winxp (US version)
169.21_forceware_winxp (International version)
Some programs won't run from links.
AVG email detection disabled.

Specs:
Pentium 4 2.8GHz.
1.25Gb DDR PC2100 Ram

I also have Windows 2000 Professional on the computer and that has no
trouble booting or recognising the graphics card.

Any suggestions?

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- River (25/11/2007)

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Unknown - 27 May 2008 20:58 GMT

>I had my system just the way I wanted it and everything I wanted to do
>worked.

What virus programs, spyware and other trash did you have installed?

> Then I upgraded to SP3.
>
> SP3 wouldn't boot and nor would safe mode so I had to "repair" my
> installation by reinstalling my original SP1 installation disk and
> installing SP2 over the top of it.

Did you try uninstalling SP3?

> Sadly my system is nowhere near the state it was in before. Since SP3
> caused this problem and SP3 intransigence in not allowing me to remove it
> in the usual way has caused a lot of problems that would take me 20 mins
> to list here ... however

What makes you think SP3 caused the problem and not virus programs, or
something else? Fire wall?

> A brief list
> RPC server not working. Now partially fixed
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>
> Any suggestions?

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sychotic <c>hicken - 28 May 2008 03:49 GMT

>>I had my system just the way I wanted it and everything I wanted to do
>>worked.
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>What makes you think SP3 caused the problem and not virus programs, or
>something else? Fire wall?

Well the computer worked before SP3 was installed and didn't afterwards.
It has problems and I'm going to track them down. However I feel that
will require a level of expertise not available here.

>> A brief list
>> RPC server not working. Now partially fixed
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>> posts.
>> - River (25/11/2007)

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deejaydee - 28 May 2008 08:40 GMT

Hi unknown,
I note we have the same graphics card , I am using
driver 93.71. 27/11/06 on a dell dimension
4600. XP Pro SP3 no problems. might be useful to you

deejaydee

>>I had my system just the way I wanted it and everything I wanted to do
>>worked.
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>> Any suggestions?

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sychotic <c>hicken - 28 May 2008 14:38 GMT

>Hi unknown,
> I note we have the same graphics card , I am using
>driver 93.71. 27/11/06 on a dell dimension
>4600. XP Pro SP3 no problems. might be useful to you
>
>deejaydee

Thanks for that.

I now have the graphics card installed thanks to someone in another
newsgroup and the computer doesn't crash anywhere as frequently as it
used to.

My only trouble now is several services set to automatic are not
starting like they should at boot time.

These services include DHCP, Print Spooler and AVG Email Scanner and
probably several others I am unaware of at the moment.

Does anyone know what might stop those services from starting as normal
and how I can fix them?.

Regards
Bill

>>>I had my system just the way I wanted it and everything I wanted to do
>>>worked.
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>>> posts.
>>> - River (25/11/2007)

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Unknown - 28 May 2008 15:45 GMT

Try getting rid of AVG. Reinstall SP3 WITHOUT AVG.

>>Hi unknown,
>> I note we have the same graphics card , I am using
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>>>> posts.
>>>> - River (25/11/2007)

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sychotic <c>hicken - 29 May 2008 02:32 GMT

>Try getting rid of AVG. Reinstall SP3 WITHOUT AVG.

Why should I do that? Are you just guessing now? There doesn't seem to
be many experts in this group. You didn't even try to answer my
question for a start. Do you get a kick out of giving people crap
advice?

>>>Hi unknown,
>>> I note we have the same graphics card , I am using
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>> posts.
>> - River (25/11/2007)

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Bob I - 29 May 2008 13:49 GMT

Please read the attached article.

Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717/en-us

sychotic hicken wrote:

>> Try getting rid of AVG. Reinstall SP3 WITHOUT AVG.
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sychotic <c>hicken - 29 May 2008 15:04 GMT

>Please read the attached article.
>
>Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717/en-us

Thank you for that. I got none of the errors or problems listed in that
article. SP3 installed fine but it was only at reboot that the system
would not start and neither would safe mode.

But that is now immaterial. I have no further desire to upgrade to SP3
for the time being. I reinstalled my XP with SP1 and then put SP2 over
the top of it. This was how it was before I installed SP3 and since I
wasn't running Ghost (a mistake I intend to rectify) I couldn't restore
the previous "good" system.

Now I have an SP2 system that behaves in a way it never used to.
Several services don't start at boot-up. DHCP, Print Spooler and AVG
Email scanner all need to be started manually even when they are set to
automatic. After that I have a working system the way it used to work.
It would be nice if there was a hotfix to get these services to turn on
automatically.

I have been checking out the SP2 literature. That offers more hope of a
solution than documents concerning SP3.

>sychotic hicken wrote:
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>>>> posts.
>>>> - River (25/11/2007)

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Unknown - 29 May 2008 14:55 GMT

Wow! You certainly are psychotic. Keep your problem, ignore all the advice
you get here. Why are you asking for it?

>>Try getting rid of AVG. Reinstall SP3 WITHOUT AVG.
>
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>>> posts.
>>> - River (25/11/2007)

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sychotic <c>hicken - 29 May 2008 15:17 GMT

>Wow! You certainly are psychotic. Keep your problem, ignore all the advice
>you get here. Why are you asking for it?

I thought I had made it clear ... but more than likely I did not ...
that after my experience with SP3 all I wanted to do was go back to a
working SP2 system and leave well enough alone.

Sorry if there was a misunderstanding.

>>>Try getting rid of AVG. Reinstall SP3 WITHOUT AVG.
>>
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>> posts.
>> - River (25/11/2007)

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Anthony Buckland - 30 May 2008 00:26 GMT

The most important first step before doing _any_ big change is,
quoting the Microsoft instructions in the link in the posting I'm
responding to:

We recommend that you perform a full backup of the files that you have
on your computer to an external location, such as an external hard disk,
DVD, CD, USB flash drive, or network folder.

I use Acronis True Image, and have had several occasions to do
a restore (for reasons having nothing to do with installing SP3).
It's saved my gonads several times, and has never let me down.

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DL - 28 May 2008 00:08 GMT

Usually if sp3 fails its as a result of drivers that are currently installed

>I had my system just the way I wanted it and everything I wanted to do
>worked.
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>
> Any suggestions?

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