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Windows Forum / Windows XP / General Topics 1 / July 2008Spy Sweeper vs. Spybot Search and Destroy
I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have doubts that there may be conflicts between the two. I have two questions: first, are my doubts well founded; second, if so, which should I choose to continue. I am posting in this ng although I'm trying to use Vista, as a result of my XP machine suffering a hardware meltdown; the equivalent Vista ng is populated with a huge number of crackpots, weirdos and plain old lunatics; it makes it hard to ask a question there and get an answer that can be trusted. On the other hand, this ng is full of very helpful people. Thanks for any help. Allen There is no problem using both, however, you should disable Spybot's "Tea Timer". ju.c > I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have doubts that there may be > conflicts between the two. I have two questions: first, are my doubts well founded; [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > trusted. On the other hand, this ng is full of very helpful people. Thanks for any help. > Allen ...if you don't fully understand what it does and how it does it. > There is no problem using both, however, you should disable Spybot's "Tea > Timer". [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> Thanks >> for any help. Allen I'm one of those who long ago disabled Tea Timer because it was causing me grief. Where can I learn how to use it correctly? Jeff > ...if you don't fully understand what it does and how it does it. > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >>> people. Thanks >>> for any help. Allen 1. Make sure it's been fully disabled. See http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=32409 2. You can ask about Tea Timer in Spybot Forums: http://forums.spybot.info/forumdisplay.php?f=4  Signature~PA Bear > I'm one of those who long ago disabled Tea Timer because it was causing me > grief. Where can I learn how to use it correctly? [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >>>> people. Thanks >>>> for any help. Allen Hi Bear. A lot of people have apparently had problems when Tea Timer is active. I was one of them and had to deactivate it long ago though I now no longer recall what the problem was. What does one need to know to use Tea Timer (wierd name) without running into problems or conflicts? Jeff > ...if you don't fully understand what it does and how it does it. > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >>> people. Thanks >>> for any help. Allen > I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have doubts > that there may be conflicts between the two. I have two questions: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > and get an answer that can be trusted. On the other hand, this ng is > full of very helpful people. Thanks for any help. Have a look at this: http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm and be guided accordingly. Good info can be obtained here: http://www.majorgeeks.com/page.php?id=20 and here: http://www.av-comparatives.org/ If the above is too deluging consider this:- Real-time AV applications - for viral malware. Do not utilize more than one (1) real-time anti-virus scanning engine! Disable the e-mail scanning function during installation (Custom Installation on some AV apps.) as it provides no additional protection. Why You Don't Need Your Anti-Virus Program to Scan Your E-Mail http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm Viral Irony: The Most Common Cause of Corruption. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx Avira AntiVir® Personal - FREE Antivirus http://www.free-av.com/ You may wish to consider removing the 'AntiVir Nagscreen' http://www.elitekiller.com/files/disable_antivir_nag.htm or Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition It includes ANTI-SPYWARE protection, certified by the West Coast Labs Checkmark process, and ANTI-ROOTKIT DETECTION based on the best-in class GMER technology. http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html (Choose Custom Installation and under Resident Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange.) or AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition http://free.grisoft.com/ (Choose custom install and untick the email scanner plugin.) or ESET NOD32 Antivirus - Not Free http://www.eset.com/ or Kaspersky® Anti-Virus 7.0 - Not Free http://www.kaspersky.com/homeuser and (optional but highly recommendable) On-demand AV applications. (add them to your arsenal and use them as a "second opinion" av scanner). David H. Lipman's MULTI_AV Tool http://www.pctipp.ch/ds/28400/28470/Multi_AV.exe http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp English: http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/2008/01/09/scan-your-computer-with-multiple- anti-virus-for-free/ Additional Instructions: http://pcdid.com/Multi_AV.htm and/or BitDefender10 Free Edition (*NOT FOR VISTA*) http://www.bitdefender.com/PRODUCT-14-en--BitDefender-8-Free-Edition.html Kaspersky's AVPTool http://downloads5.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/AVPTool/ There's no updating involved since the scanning engine is updated several times a day and you simply download the updated scanner whenever you want to do a scan. Dr.Web CureIt!® Utility - FREE http://www.freedrweb.com/cureit/ Malwarebytes© Corporation - Anti-Malware http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam/program/mbam-setup.exe Note: It is Free for private use. Just download (do NOT buy) and install. A-S applications - for non-viral malware. The effectiveness of an individual A-S scanners can be wide-ranging and oftentimes a collection of scanners is best. There isn't one software that cleans and immunizes you against everything. That's why you need multiple products to do the job i.e. overlap their coverage - one may catch what another may miss, (grab'em all). SuperAntispyware - Free http://www.superantispyware.com/superantispywarefreevspro.html and Ad-Aware 2007 - Free http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html and Spybot Search & Destroy - Free http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html and Windows Defender - Free (build-in in Vista) http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx WD monitors the start-registry and hooks registers/files to prevent spyware and worms to install to the OS. Interesting reading: http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136195/article.html "...Windows Defender did excel in behavior-based protection, which detects changes to key areas of the system without having to know anything about the actual threat." A clarification on the terminology: the word "malware" is short for "malicious software." Most Anti-Virus applications detect many types of malware such as viruses, worms, trojans, etc. What AV applications usually don't detect is "non-viral" malware, and the term "non-viral malware" is normally used to refer to things like spyware and adware. Good luck :) >I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have doubts >that there may be conflicts between the two. I have two questions: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >full of very helpful people. Thanks for any help. >Allen There are separate versions of Spy Sweeper that work for Vista. I use both Spy Sweeper (all shields enabled) and Spybot but the resident Tea-Timer in Spybot is disabled. No problems in XP. To get a straight answer you might want to contact the makers of Spy Sweeper. >I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have doubts >that there may be conflicts between the two. I have two questions: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >full of very helpful people. Thanks for any help. >Allen Why ask HERE? This is an XP group, and not just a group where you can post any question vaguely related to a computer. Hell, I might as well ask how to fix the ignition control module in my car here in that case as it is, after all, a computer. Ask elsewhere >> I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have doubts >> that there may be conflicts between the two. I have two questions: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Ask elsewhere Well, well, well. It looks like one of the imbeciles from the Vista ng escaped. I explained why I posted here, and it was basically because this group wasn't loaded with fools a month ago when I had to leave XP. And I must add that a question regarding whether two COMPUTER programs conflicted--nothing about ignition systems. Allen > > Why ask HERE? This is an XP group, and not just a group where you can > > post any question vaguely related to a computer. Hell, I might as [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > And I must add that a question regarding whether two COMPUTER programs > conflicted--nothing about ignition systems. Unfortunately, you can find rude and inconsiderate people in any newsgroup--Windows XP, Windows Vista, or anywhere else. Edric, Uncle Grumpy (as he used to call himself), or any of the other names he uses (as is typical of trolls, he frequently changes his name to escape people's killfiles) is clearly one of them. He never posts anything of any value, he never even tries to post anything that helps anybody. He only posts rude complaints about people posting in the wrong place. His point is often correct, but his style is always rude, nasty, and unwelcome to almost all of the rest of us here. How sad it must be to have nothing else in life to do but rudely complain to people that they are posting in the wrong newsgroup. I suggest you do what the rest of us here do--killfile him in your newsreader. It won't last long; he will soon change his name again to thwart you, but it's easy enough to add him back to the killfile again as often as necessary. SignatureKen Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience Please Reply to the Newsgroup > >>> Why ask HERE? This is an XP group, and not just a group where you can [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > thwart you, but it's easy enough to add him back to the killfile again > as often as necessary. Thank you Ken. I had suspected that he might indeed be Uncle Grumpy, whom I killfiled the first day I started lurking on this group perhaps a year ago. There aren't very many like him in this ng compared to its Vista counterpart, which has one of the highest percentage of nutcases of any group I have ever followed, in subjects like classical music, digital photography and genealogy. Allen > > Unfortunately, you can find rude and inconsiderate people in any > > newsgroup--Windows XP, Windows Vista, or anywhere else. Edric, Uncle [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Thank you Ken. You're welcome. Glad to help. > I had suspected that he might indeed be Uncle Grumpy, > whom I killfiled the first day I started lurking on this group perhaps a > year ago. There aren't very many like him in this ng compared to its > Vista counterpart, which has one of the highest percentage of nutcases > of any group I have ever followed, in subjects like classical music, > digital photography and genealogy. The Vista group is certainly laden with nuts, trolls, spammers., etc. But a killfile is an effective way of dealing with them. You have to add new names to it now and then, but that's not too hard. SignatureKen Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience Please Reply to the Newsgroup >> > Why ask HERE? This is an XP group, and not just a group where you can >> > post any question vaguely related to a computer. Hell, I might as [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >thwart you, but it's easy enough to add him back to the killfile again >as often as necessary. I never called myself Uncle Grumpy. Nice try, though. >>> > Why ask HERE? This is an XP group, and not just a group where you can >>> > post any question vaguely related to a computer. Hell, I might as [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > I never called myself Uncle Grumpy. Nice try, though. That aside, the rest of the post was entirely apposite (apart from the bit about being correct). >>I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have doubts >>that there may be conflicts between the two. I have two questions: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Ask elsewhere This is a general newsgroup for asking general question. Although the OP is using Vista, the Vista newsgroups are widely accessible so his question is acceptable to the rest of us. Your fuckwit example, of course wouldn't be. >>>I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have doubts >>>that there may be conflicts between the two. I have two questions: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > is acceptable to the rest of us. Your fuckwit example, of course wouldn't > be. That should have read "... the Vista newsgroups are *not* widely accessible ...". >>I have both of the programs mentioned in the subject and have doubts >>that there may be conflicts between the two. I have two questions: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Ask elsewhere This a newsgroup for general questions from people running XP. Seems a good place to ask to me. |
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