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Gail Rossum - 19 Aug 2008 22:14 GMT
I scanned my PC with Rescuer & of course I had 1000+errors that need to be
fixed, for a price of course. My PC has some problems I am sure as its very
sluggish, freezes from time to time. Very annoying to say the least. Should
I pay the $30.00 & buy this or is there a free one out there also. I
regularly "clean" out my PC but is this enough? Need your opinion.
Gail
Gail Rossum - 19 Aug 2008 22:28 GMT
this should have read "RegCure" not Rescuer (but that might help better)
>I scanned my PC with Rescuer & of course I had 1000+errors that need to be
>fixed, for a price of course. My PC has some problems I am sure as its very
>sluggish, freezes from time to time. Very annoying to say the least. Should
>I pay the $30.00 & buy this or is there a free one out there also. I
>regularly "clean" out my PC but is this enough? Need your opinion.
> Gail
John John (MVP) - 19 Aug 2008 22:32 GMT
Keep your money in your pocket!  These cleaners do more harm than good,
chances are it will bug up your computer instead of fixing it.

John

> I scanned my PC with Rescuer & of course I had 1000+errors that need to be
> fixed, for a price of course. My PC has some problems I am sure as its very
> sluggish, freezes from time to time. Very annoying to say the least. Should
> I pay the $30.00 & buy this or is there a free one out there also. I
> regularly "clean" out my PC but is this enough? Need your opinion.
> Gail
Gail Rossum - 19 Aug 2008 22:38 GMT
Thank You!
> Keep your money in your pocket!  These cleaners do more harm than good,
> chances are it will bug up your computer instead of fixing it.
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>> I regularly "clean" out my PC but is this enough? Need your opinion.
>> Gail
Daave - 19 Aug 2008 23:38 GMT
>I scanned my PC with Rescuer & of course I had 1000+errors that need to
>be fixed, for a price of course. My PC has some problems I am sure as
>its very sluggish, freezes from time to time. Very annoying to say the
>least. Should I pay the $30.00 & buy this or is there a free one out
>there also. I regularly "clean" out my PC but is this enough? Need your
>opinion.

You are smart to ask this question. Registry "cleaners" often do harm,
and it has never been demonstrated that they do any good. If you'd like
to explore this topic more, this is a good thread:

http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099

Here are the three most common causes for PC slowness:

1. Malicious software (malware)

2. Certain programs that are designed to combat malware (e.g., Norton
and McAfee). Ironically, they can slow things down because they simply
use way too many resources. Sometime they cause conflicts with other
programs. And their default mode is to scan your entire hard drive each
time you boot up.

3. Too many of *certain types* of programs always running in the
background -- with or without your knowledge.

4. Not enough RAM, which causes the PC to overly rely on the pagefile. A
quick way to determine if this is happening is to open Task Manager
(Ctrl+Alt+Del) and click the Performance tab. Then note the three values
under Commit Charge (K): in the lower left-hand corner: Total, Limit,
and Peak.

The Total figure represents the amount of memory you are using at that
very moment. The Peak figure represents the highest amount of memory you
used since last bootup. If both these figures are below the value of
Physical Memory (K) Total, then you probably have plenty of RAM.
Otherwise, you may want to explore this further by running Page File
Monitor for Windows XP:

http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_pagefilemon.htm

Everything you need to know to address the other three issues and more
can be found at these links:

http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/slowcom.htm

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Viruses_Malware
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 20 Aug 2008 02:41 GMT
Think your Registry needs "cleaning" or "repairing"?  Read
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw your own conclusions.
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> I scanned my PC with Rescuer & of course I had 1000+errors that need to be
> fixed, for a price of course. My PC has some problems I am sure as its
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> regularly "clean" out my PC but is this enough? Need your opinion.
> Gail
Bruce Chambers - 20 Aug 2008 03:21 GMT
> I scanned my PC with Rescuer & of course I had 1000+errors that need to be
> fixed, for a price of course. My PC has some problems I am sure as its very
> sluggish, freezes from time to time. Very annoying to say the least. Should
> I pay the $30.00 & buy this or is there a free one out there also. I
> regularly "clean" out my PC but is this enough? Need your opinion.
> Gail

    A registry cleaner - even a safe one, should such ever be developed
- is an exercise in, at best, futility.  There is no real need for
registry cleaners, other than to provide a profit to their
manufacturers.  On rare occasions, registry cleaners can be, in the
hands of a skilled technician, useful, time-saving diagnostic tools.
Otherwise, they're nothing but snake oil.

   Why do you even think you'd ever need to clean your registry?  What
specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's
bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by
using a registry cleaner?

    If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would
be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the
specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem.  After
all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job?  Additionally,
the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely
to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make
multiple changes simultaneously.  The only thing needed to safely clean
your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.

    The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
device drivers, and the computer's configuration.  A misstep in the
registry can have severe consequences.  One should not even turning
loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
each and every change.

    Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
automated registry "cleaners,"  I can only advise all but the most
experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
of the inexperienced user.  If you lack the knowledge and experience to
maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,
no matter how safe they claim to be.

    More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an
automated registry cleaner, particularly by an untrained, inexperienced
computer user, does any real good, whatsoever.  There's certainly been
no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use of such
products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's performance
or stability.  Given the potential for harm, it's just not worth the risk.

    Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and
every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.
And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any
good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no
real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo
effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the
non-existent benefits.

    I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands
of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a
useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make
any changes automatically.  But I really don't think that there are any
registry cleaners that are truly safe for the general public to use.
Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe
in the hands of the inexperienced user.

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Ken Blake - 20 Aug 2008 16:42 GMT
>I scanned my PC with Rescuer & of course I had 1000+errors that need to be
>fixed, for a price of course. My PC has some problems I am sure as its very
>sluggish, freezes from time to time. Very annoying to say the least. Should
>I pay the $30.00  & buy this

No!

> or is there a free one out there also.

Don't do that either.

> I regularly "clean" out my PC but is this enough? Need your opinion.

Look elsewhere for the cause of your sluggishness and freezing. It's not
that the registry needs cleaning. All such programs should be avoided like
the plague. What it calls "registry
errors" are not really errors, but probably just orphaned, unused entries,
that don't represent any kind of problem.

I strongly recommend *against* use of registry cleaners. Cleaning of the
registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and don't
use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and what vendors
of registry cleaning software try to convince you of, having unused registry
entries doesn't really hurt you.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit it may
have.
Dave Head - 21 Aug 2008 17:54 GMT
> >I scanned my PC with Rescuer & of course I had 1000+errors that need to be
> >fixed, for apriceof course. My PC has some problems I am sure as its very
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> removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit it may
> have.

Regcure works GREAT.

But...

The website quotes $29.95, but when you actually authorize payment,
takes $39.95 out of your paypal account.

Additionally, as explained _nowhere_ in any of the websites that I can
find, the price for the software is for 1 year.  It stops working
after that, and you HAVE TO BUY IT AGAIN.

I think that, although the software works better than any similar PC
help software that I've ever purchased, the marketing overall is
fraudulent.  I won't be buying it _again_. When it dies next year, if
I want to make my machine run faster, I'll just reload the operating
system and shed all the spyware, malware, broken registry links, etc.,
etc at that time.  That's what having a big external backup disk is
for...
John John (MVP) - 21 Aug 2008 19:30 GMT
> Regcure works GREAT.
>
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> find, the price for the software is for 1 year.  It stops working
> after that, and you HAVE TO BUY IT AGAIN.

Oh, it works great for the ones who are filling their pockets and
fraudulently advertising one price and then charging a different higher
price when suckers buy their useless software!  As if that isn't bad
enough after one year the crap probably highjacks the unsuspecting
suckers computer and demands another payment!  Oh yes, what a great
little scam...

Other than that what makes you think that this fraudulent piece of junk
works "great"?   Like all other registry cleaners not only is this one
dangerous and useless but it is also a scam!  Has any one informed
Paypal about the billing practices of these crooks?

John
Dave Head - 21 Aug 2008 23:46 GMT
> > Regcure works GREAT.

> Other than that what makes you think that this fraudulent piece of junk
> works "great"?

> John

Because I put it on my laptop last year, ran it, and the speedup in
responses to mouse clicks and web page accesses was akin to putting a
supercharger on a V8 engine.  My computer worked better than it had
for a long time.

Dave
Daave - 22 Aug 2008 03:22 GMT
On Aug 21, 2:30 pm, "John John (MVP)" <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
> Dave Head wrote:
>
>>> Regcure works GREAT.

>> Other than that what makes you think that this fraudulent piece of
>> junk
>> works "great"?
>>
>> John

> Because I put it on my laptop last year, ran it, and the speedup in
> responses to mouse clicks and web page accesses was akin to putting
> a supercharger on a V8 engine.  My computer worked better than it
> had for a long time.

Dave, is it possible you cleaned out your Temporary Internet Files at
around the same time?

And John, it appears your post was filtered by Microsoft!
John John (MVP) - 22 Aug 2008 03:33 GMT
> On Aug 21, 2:30 pm, "John John (MVP)" <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>
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>
> And John, it appears your post was filtered by Microsoft!

Won't be the first time ;-)  It doesn't bother me any more than that, I
can always post in Morse code if I have to!  One of my comment was that
I was surprised that nobody reported the outfit to PayPal, advertising
one price and charging a higher one when doing the transaction.

John
PA Bear [MS MVP] - 22 Aug 2008 05:57 GMT
<snip>
>> And John, it appears your post was filtered by Microsoft!
>
> Won't be the first time ;-)

cf.
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/msg/5e62fb1dad
eab964

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Daave - 22 Aug 2008 14:11 GMT
> <snip>
>>> And John, it appears your post was filtered by Microsoft!
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> cf.
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/msg/5e62fb1dad
eab964

I wonder if it had something to do with the word suckers?
Daave - 22 Aug 2008 18:09 GMT
>> <snip>
>>>> And John, it appears your post was filtered by Microsoft!
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> I wonder if it had something to do with the word [*censored*]?

Apparently!
John John (MVP) - 22 Aug 2008 18:54 GMT
>>><snip>
>>>
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>
> Apparently!

I guess from now on we will have to call them P.T. Barnum customers!

John
Daave - 22 Aug 2008 20:54 GMT
>>>><snip>
>>>>
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>
> I guess from now on we will have to call them P.T. Barnum customers!

There's one born every minute. ;-)

You know, it really is annoying when this happens. I've had posts
censored as well, and AFAICT, there was no reason at all for that to
have happened. But there apparently is a filter that is not quite ready
for prime time. I might just use my ISP's news server exclusively. Then
when posts don't appear on the MS news server (including mine), I just
won't know; therfore, I won't be annoyed!
Dave Head - 22 Aug 2008 17:03 GMT
On Aug 21, 10:22 pm, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid>
wrote:
> On Aug 21, 2:30 pm, "John John (MVP)" <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Dave, is it possible you cleaned out your Temporary Internet Files at
> around the same time?

As I recall, I had already done all that standard sort of thing, along
with a defrag, etc.  Then I stuck this regcure thing on the laptop and
it took off like a rocket.  Dunno... don't ask me... it didn't much
help on the desktop when I used it earlier this week, but on the
laptop, it was like nitromethane in the gas tank.

> And John, it appears your post was filtered by Microsoft!
Daave - 23 Aug 2008 14:48 GMT
> On Aug 21, 10:22 pm, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid>
> wrote:

>> Dave, is it possible you cleaned out your Temporary Internet Files at
>> around the same time?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> help on the desktop when I used it earlier this week, but on the
> laptop, it was like nitromethane in the gas tank.

I'll bet your performance improved because of the deletion of temp files
followed by the defrag.
Dave Head - 23 Aug 2008 18:29 GMT
> > On Aug 21, 10:22 pm, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid>
> > wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I'll bet your performance improved because of the deletion of temp files
> followed by the defrag.

Uhhh,,, if the problem had been cured by that, then why would I have
continued  to try to solve it by buying Regcure?
Daave - 23 Aug 2008 20:00 GMT
On Aug 23, 9:48 am, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote:

>> I'll bet your performance improved because of the deletion of temp
>> files followed by the defrag.

> Uhhh,,, if the problem had been cured by that, then why would I have
> continued  to try to solve it by buying Regcure?

Because you apparently believe in Regcure's placebo effect. Hey, it's
your money.

In case you ever want to learn what *really* causes sluggishness and how
to improve performance, see:

http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/slowcom.htm
Dave Head - 24 Aug 2008 02:58 GMT
> On Aug 23, 9:48 am, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Because you apparently believe in Regcure's placebo effect. Hey, it's
> your money.

Hey, believe whatever you want, since you've apparently made a
religion out of this.  I'm just telling you my experience.
Daave - 24 Aug 2008 08:09 GMT
On Aug 23, 3:00 pm, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote:
>> On Aug 23, 9:48 am, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid>
>> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>> Because you apparently believe in Regcure's placebo effect. Hey, it's
>> your money.

> Hey, believe whatever you want, since you've apparently made a
> religion out of this.  I'm just telling you my experience.

If you are not interesting in learning, I won't waste any more of my
time. Godspeed.
Dave Head - 24 Aug 2008 10:42 GMT
> On Aug 23, 3:00 pm, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> If you are not interesting in learning, I won't waste any more of my
> time. Godspeed.- Hide quoted text -

Not much interested in learning something from someone that, when
given facts that happen to disagree with his own beliefs, thinks he
can change the facts, and irrationally clings to his beliefs...
John John (MVP) - 24 Aug 2008 14:57 GMT
>>On Aug 23, 3:00 pm, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> given facts that happen to disagree with his own beliefs, thinks he
> can change the facts, and irrationally clings to his beliefs...

The facts just don't support your argument.  While it is possible, a one
in 14 million chance, that an obscure registry entry might have slowed
down your computer and that a registry cleaner would have found and
removed the entry, this is more of a fluke than anything else!  More
often than not these registry cleaners do more harm than good and the
one in 14 million time that they might slightly help does not change the
overall bad track record that those mostly useless applications have!
Also, that you call this application a "great" one and that you would
recommend what is nothing but a scam (expires after one year, advertise
one price then charge a higher one...) to other users leaves a great
deal to be questioned about your recommendations!

John
Dave Head - 24 Aug 2008 15:21 GMT
>>>On Aug 23, 3:00 pm, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>
>John

I'm not saying that registry cleaners in general are a great thing.  All I'm
saying is that I tried all the standard stuff, like deleting temp files, doing
virus scans, adware scans, etc. and my computer was still painfully slow.  Then
I used this Regcure thing and the computer took off like a rocket.  That's all.

BTW, deleting cookies and temporary internet files has NEVER, EVER helped make
my computer faster.  Ever.  All that ever happens is that multiple sites that
used to know some useful things about my activities with them "forget" them,
and I have to either remember them or look them up again.
Dave Head - 24 Aug 2008 15:39 GMT
>>>On Aug 23, 3:00 pm, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>
>John

Oh, btw, virus scanners have NEVER found a virus in my computer EXCEPT for one
that a buddy brought over on a CD of ham radio utilities.  That he downloaded.
I don't download squat for "free" 'cuz it eventually doesn't turn out to be
"free" - it has crap like that in it - with the exception being when the stuff
is recommended by commercial sites such as ZDNet or commonly known to be good
stuff from word of mouth by users that have tried it already.  IOW, I don't go
google and start downloading executables.  I mostly _buy_ the utilities I want.
THose don't have viruses.   Mostly...

Even with virus scanners and adware detectors, my computer died last September
from some piece of the OS that it couldn't find any more.  I gave the thing to
Geek Squad and it took them the entire month of September to finally figure out
that they couldn't save the whole environment, give up and reinstall Win XP,
and replaced one CD drive that _may_ have been a problem.  And that's with
Norton and Ad-Aware working.  Fortunately, I just reinstalled everything from
the original install disks, and restored everything I needed from the backups.
I had 100% backup.  Backups are _waaaay_ more effective than virus scanners at
protecting data.  My backup software, Stomp BackupMyPC (alias Veritas), doesn't
like to create 150 gigabyte backups, so I have to divide it into "Disk C:",
"Disk D: without photos", and "Disk D: photos".  Just did Disk C: this morning
after the gold medal basketball game - get the thing going, and it'll backup 56
Gb in a couple hours.  Wake up and its done.  Now for disk D and its photos and
other stuff... ESata makes this go really much faster than USB 2.0.
John John (MVP) - 24 Aug 2008 17:06 GMT
>>>>On Aug 23, 3:00 pm, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
>
> [snip]

???  What does this have to do with Registry Cleaners?  This is quite a
veering off course...

> Even with virus scanners and adware detectors, my computer died last September
> from some piece of the OS that it couldn't find any more.  I gave the thing to
> Geek Squad and it took them the entire month of September to finally figure out
> that they couldn't save the whole environment, give up and reinstall Win XP

Pretty well figures... it took those dingbats a whole month to figure
things out and reinstall Windows!  If you have to rely on these guys to
fix your computer you are indeed desperate, they are about the last ones
I would ever recommend anyone ask or trust with their computer repair.
Maybe the reason the computer failed was because you ran registry
cleaners on it and then quite understandably it wouldn't be a surprise
if the "squad" couldn't fix it, I will have to give them the benefit of
doubt on that one.

John
Dave Head - 24 Aug 2008 17:45 GMT
>>>>>On Aug 23, 3:00 pm, "Daave" <dcwashNOS...@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
>???  What does this have to do with Registry Cleaners?  This is quite a
>veering off course...

The link posted by Daave a couple exchanges ago:

http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/slowcom.htm

goes thru the whole standard stuff about anti-adware, anti-virus, erasing temp
files and cookies, etc. etc.  That's what I was responding to.

>> Even with virus scanners and adware detectors, my computer died last September
>> from some piece of the OS that it couldn't find any more.  I gave the thing to
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Pretty well figures... it took those dingbats a whole month to figure
>things out and reinstall Windows!

I was imploring them NOT to destroy all the setups I had on the computer.  I
knew it would take weeks to get them all back.  Actually, I still don't have
everything reinstalled, but of course those are things I rarely used.

>If you have to rely on these guys to
>fix your computer you are indeed desperate, they are about the last ones
>I would ever recommend anyone ask or trust with their computer repair.

Its them or the privateers around here.  IOW, they're the only ones I know of
with a large corp behind them that (more than likely) sponsors update training,
etc.  Better the devil you know than the devil you don't.  And, anyway, they
seemed pretty good to me - at least as knowledgable as the guys at work, etc.
I've been thoroughly unimpress with MANY supposed sources of this knowledge,
since there generally seems to be no one that knows what to do about the
"access denied" problems I get in my NTFS-formatted laptop.  I finally had to
google and figure that out myself.  I _REALLY_ hate file permission nonsense in
a home computer - gimmie Win 95, that just does what I tell it to, when I tell
it to (unless its crashed, of course, but at least it doesn't have built-in
things that keep me from doing what I want to do...)

>Maybe the reason the computer failed was because you ran registry
>cleaners on it

Nope - this computer has never seen a registry cleaner until last week.  I have
to be on the edge of considering a complete reinstall before I'd consider
something like that, since I half-expect it to completely hose the system
anyway.  Use only after a full backup...

>and then quite understandably it wouldn't be a surprise
>if the "squad" couldn't fix it, I will have to give them the benefit of
>doubt on that one.

Naw, the damn thing just died from general rot after working pretty good,
although slowly at times, for about 4 years without much of any attention. 2003
-> 2007 ain't too bad - my buddy out in California reinstalls his Windows on a
regular basis - he claims that it just corrodes naturally with use.  I'm
beginning to believe him.

>John
Daave - 21 Aug 2008 23:06 GMT
> Regcure works GREAT.

Yeah, it works GREAT at separating a fool from his money.

> But...
>
> The website quotes $29.95, but when you actually authorize payment,
> takes $39.95 out of your paypal account.

Q.E.D.
Bruce Chambers - 22 Aug 2008 02:14 GMT
>>> I scanned my PC with Rescuer & of course I had 1000+errors that need to be
>>> fixed, for apriceof course. My PC has some problems I am sure as its very
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> Regcure works GREAT.

    How can it possibly work "great" when it (like all other so-called
registry cleaners) does absolutely nothing useful?

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